Beacon Persistence

Is there such a thing? Doesn’t making logic subjective instantly defeat the definition of having a set of reasoning adhering to certain principles? People always hail you as having “logical” arguments but really they’re more full of pathos than logos. Which I think you admit to. Just saying.

My personal argument, which I’ve mentioned three or four times in this thread so far, is that I’d like explorers to be able to loot town with weak/vanished beacons. My argument for beacons decaying is that I want to scavenge the builds and take advantage of the world regen tech. I don’t think anyone arguing for this has ever assumed that the ghost towns will look “bad”, because “bad” in the aesthetic sense is subjective to each person. We just assumed that, by definition, they’ll be empty. Or I did at least.[quote=“Zouls, post:142, topic:4285”]
This argument comes with the assumption. Extremely rooted in it. That any person who does no longer play have created something that is a nuisance to the community as a whole.
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You know what they say about assumptions ;P. I think I debunked this with my personal reasoning above. So I’ll skip the two major paragraphs assuming everyone making this argument is in the mindset that all builds suck.

Let’s say there’s a town with 25 people such that it’s arranged like this:

A B C D E
F G H I J
K L M N O
P Q R S T
U V W X Y

Now let’s say player G has left the game and has no intention of rejoining but player H has a really good friend Z who wants to join this town. But the town belongs to a guild called “The 25” or something and they won’t let player Z join. Now if G’s beacon were to deteriorate in their absence, Z could join. Yes this is a weak example. Yes this doesn’t apply to everyone. But it is a valid example and thus can be used to fuel that argument.

Let’s also not forget they’re promoting real estate brokers and whatnot as something people can do if they want. Not sure how many idyllic-cliffside-waterfall-facing-sunset-with-a-valley spots there are going to be in these worlds, but I also don’t want to search every inch of every world to find them. If someone has claimed this beautiful area and hasn’t been around in 9 months, it’s hurting my business.[quote=“Zouls, post:142, topic:4285”]
Due to being gone for too long we have decided to wipe everything in your bank and everything in your backpack. Welcome Back!"
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I don’t understand where you’re getting the idea that the inventory is wiped too. I don’t think anyone is suggesting inventories be tied to beacons and when you lose the beacon you lose your inventory.

I’ve been thinking about this for a bit, but would functionality like an ender-chest be something that would appeal to people to save important/rare materials?

And as I’ve said several times, there are responsibilities in real life. Taxes, rent, bills. You go away for 6 months and neglect these, you’re going to be discouraged when you come back too haha. If you’re planning to go away, ask someone to watch over your stuff. If some major big bad thing happened and you’ve lost your computer and all internet access for a year, then idk what to say. I don’t play it, but I think you lose your EVE “beacon” or whatever that some people were talking about. You lose towns in Minecraft Towny. But most MMORPGs don’t allow players to shape or impact the world. Most don’t regen the world. Boundless isn’t your typical MMO and I don’t think the typical everything-you-do-is-immortalized-forever aspect of most MMOs has a place in Boundless.

I think as I suggested a bit above, having an ender-chest type thing (built with end-game mats/tech, of course, and probably a shared inventory across containers) would be a good answer to this.[quote=“Zouls, post:142, topic:4285”]
But don’t punish the guy who just has a small house with his stuff there who has too much stuff going on to play.
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Again, people have suggested in this thread that it would take maybe 5 mins every month to replenish your fuel cost. Or if we go with the login route, maybe 30 seconds. And if you get multiple emails saying, “Hey, you, log on or you lose your beacons” then whose fault is it really? If you’ve got too much going on to spare 30 seconds every month, maybe you’ve just got too much going on to even be playing video games in general.

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