HELP! What is "new content"?


#26

For me “new content” is something that add new gameplay and/or ancourage people to spend more time in Boundless.

I love new bloks and I think guild sistem is a “new content” because interact with others is an important part of this game.
I would like to see… a lot of things that I’ve just read… But i can say farming, placeable water, something for the interior of our buildings(differenti types of storage blocks for ex.), hunter staffs and periodic quest/contracts even made by players.


#27

Player owned planets and something to grind for that is like legendary hard to find and craft 0.0001% of finding xD

Ladders, Fences, more porps, farming and titans :slight_smile:


#28

Others have covered my thoughts pretty well on what is new content, but I want to touch a little on the size aspect. I think a lot of people are yearning for a major content update. We’ve had some new things trickle out, but it’s been too little to really get us excited. Like the table and chair. They are nice, but I think a lot of us were hoping for a proper Furniture Update, with all sorts of props and interactables - ladders, lamps, couches, knickknacks, display cases, etc. Maybe even ziplines, idk…

Point is, I think a nice big content update like that would be well received. I think farming has the potential to live up to that. Looking forward to the details :slight_smile:

(Edit: meant to reply to the topic at large, not virress’ post. Sorry for any confusion!)


#29

Ziplines would be an awesome addition.


#30

New content might also be repurposing existing content. As discussed above, combat is redundant, shoot and dodge. Could we use the existing tools as melee weapons? Add boons in the forge - hammer gets stun boon, axe gets a form of slow movement or cleave/rend for additional damage to creatures, and the shovel gets a damage over time for piercing. These effects exist already, at least to some extent.

Also, would it be possible to introduce creature tracking? Right now hunting is more stumbling across a creature and shooting it. I would like to actually hunt roadrunners by something other than and audio cue when I get too close.

Edit: By melee weapons, I mean something on par with the damage output of slingbow. I have tried beating a spitter with a hammer or axe and it is not effective as a means of combat for creatures of equivalent level to the player.


#31

For me, New content would be anything that encourages multiplayer cooperation.

Guilds are obviously a great step toward this. I believe enhancing the combat experience - adding more events (outside titans), such as boss enemies that spawn from special meteors, but, more importantly:

Diversifying the combat experience by expanding on the current class systems:

  • Allowing multiple types of DPS roles - ranged and Melee using a pole-arm for example
  • New Epic that allows slingbow bolts to heal allies, adding to the medic’s role
  • New class via the use of epics that can support allies through giving temporary damage, speed, or armour buffs

#32

Guilds aren’t really “new content”. That would fall under a QoL update, if all goes well. We already kinda group up into towns & such…which seemed to take the place of a “club/guild/etc”.

I’m looking forward to the new chat system…but then again, that’s also not new content & falls under QoL.

New content would be dungeons, pets, farming, plasma, etc.


#33

I would break down deliverables into three categories: infrastructure, content, and quality improvements.

Infrastructure is stuff that multiplies the value of the existing content. Guilds and global chat for example. Other features I want, the ability to sell bundles and a way to sell prefabs, are also infrastructure in my mind.

Quality improvements are bug fixes, updates to the UI, etc. The small things that prevent death by a thousand cuts.

Content is everything else. New blocks, new tools, new enemies, hats, planets, all of it.

The farming system itself would be infrastructure and the things we can do in it would be new content. Adding more recipes to farming in an even later update would be new content.

What do I want to see next? Content! Here’s some of my favorite suggestions I’ve made that have content components.

I’m not picky though. I’ll enjoy just about anything. I probably would enjoy new monsters with new AI the most. I also have a ton of infrastructure or quality suggestions I still love… but another time.


#34

New content, to me, is new ways to play. I’m going to echo what others have said, but here are a few things…in no particular order except for the first one:

Craftable Wearables - This, to me, is my #1 desire. The top of the list is Armor and Helms (with stats)…but also clothes, capes, hats, bodypaint…all craftable IN GAME.

H2H weapons - Embur wants swords, clubs and spears…maybe a shield so we can block attacks, not just dodge? Side note, the combat system, IMO, needs a complete revamp…but I can’t tell you how that would be done.

Temporary worlds - Special mats, special mobs maybe even special physics. And don’t be hung up on needing to be harder. A T2 temp world is a fine thing.

New Activities - You Guys have already discussed farming, but I’d like to see things like fishing or animal training as well.

Mobility - Someone mentioned vehicles, and I concur. Gliders being my top of the list item. There are so many great mountains I want to jump off of!!!

More blocks - Many many more blocks to craft…and not high level stuff. More blocks on the refined and decorative level. Maybe something like 144 sed. stone, 144 met.a stone to get a multi colored refined block. Or Adding gravel to a decorative block to get a block the color of the stone and the design the color of the gravel. Please take the metallic sheen off of Refined Metamorphic.

More things to craft - I know you have stuff on the way, but this has to be added anyway. Furniture the citizens can actually use would be huge.

Poles and fencing. - Let us place poles that are centered in the square. Stone, metal, wood, gleam…round and square.

Random loot - Not mats, gear. Slings, hammers etc. (also armor and clothes if you have added them) Have their abilities and quirks not only be random but also feature uncraftable buffs. Have them drop on all worlds, scaled, from T2 on up. Don’t make them common, but one every 100+ mob you kill. Also randomly dropping high end mats on low tier worlds would be a huge treat for low end players.

One thing, the only thing really, I certainly DON’T want to see is private worlds. It would either fracture the userbase or unbalance the game, IMO.


#35

This would probably break everything, but I love this idea:


#36

I would like to see content design for every level. Something that you can do like dungeons or something like that for noobies. Time limited or special planets for experience people and some hardcore feature for hardcore players for example Titans.


#37

Lots of great suggestions here, but would also like to see some fresh people arrive as part of each content push!


#38

I’d love to see gliders too. Especially if they could be used in conjunction with grapples, a la Just Cause. Grapple-parachute travel was by far the best mechanic in that game, IMO.


#39

Here is something I think would be cool. If there was a sling bow block that you could place that would defend your build from creatures while you build and while your away from the game. Also said block would auto collect the bones etc. that are dropped. These blocks would need to be repaired and possibly powered with spark.


#40

Would love to see more decorations/furniture added (and can we get a update that allows us to interact with furniture like sitting in chairs?)


#41

I would like to be able to repair tools, this will reduce prices in the store and revive the market. Many players will not agree with this, but also many players would be easier to play. Gameplay should be friendly. I still have not mastered forging because I think it’s too difficult, I’m a little lazy) But if I could repair tools, I would not mind spending time learning forging and getting resources for it :hugs::heart:

ADDED: The ability to connect the machines to the storage boxes


#42

Theory of Block Games says, the game is fundamentally a framework in which a number of systems interact. These systems are largely independent but can form a tiered hierarchy or tech tree.

But importantly, the best systems are those that repeatedly engage people in utilizing the core features of the game. Building, trading, and interacting with other people.

That is why everyone had a shop. There are hundreds to thousands of shops. That’s why everyone has a base, it’s required for progression. Within your base, you have some decorative or structural elements, but you also have your machines, and some storage, and these are all structures you have to build to do the game. That’s why Guilds are such a great improvement; lots of people had made guild halls before, but the new systems and things mean that there will be a lot more people getting together to make a proper “guild hall” to contain the helixes and such.

In Minecraft, especially modded, your base might expand to make a tower to put your Thaumcraft stuff in. Or you might make a little power plant that teleports lava in from a persistent block and powers things. Or you might make a little robot test room. Or you might make a factory that organizes and crafts items using pipes or something. Or you might make a nuclear plant, which needs to be separate from your base because it might blow up. These are all structures that implement the systems that are part of the game. Usually, a person is “done” after they have gone through all of the systems that they have an interest in and made their structure

And unfortunately, it’s why a lot of people make a base, then make a shop, and then do some hunts to power that shop, and check out. I think the reason that people say there is no new content, when there has been some decorative content, is because the number of systems hasn’t really changed, just the context in which those systems operate. Now, anyone can just go build anything, but ultimately… if it’s not a functional building, then you are building it for design or aesthetic purposes, which is fundamentally less rewarding than making something that people can interact with.

Now, Boundless isn’t Minecraft, but the fundamental rules of those systems stay the same. So the TL;DR for my answer is,

New content is anything that gives you a new thing to build. That’s basically the bottom line. You could say, hey, titans are not that, so what gives? And I will say, the main reason you would fight a titan, AFAIK, is to get the heart so you can build like a skyship or something. Everything comes back to building.

So I am super excited for Guilds, because as I said, it gives people new reasons to get together and build cool stuff. I am super excited for Farming, because people will start to build farm structures or greenhouses in their base (if that interests them). But similarly, ideas include

  1. Land transit like trains. People are currently accessing everything via portals. But if you had trains, it would give you the chance to see things between points A and B, that you would not otherwise stop and look at. I think the snowball hunt was cool because it actually got people roaming on the planets where there were things to see, and people LOVE making long roads and infrastructure, so land transit would be something that gets people building AND gets them to see more of the nonfunctional things that have been built.

  2. Titans, for obvious reasons, technology permitting

  3. Stadium games. People are doing the best they can with bombs, spleef, etc. but simple logic elements in a machine that just, detects the presence of a person or a ball or something would give people the option of making more games to play.

  4. Higher tier worlds requiring armor or other prestige equipment. Could be something like an “infuser” machine which takes lots of resources but allows you to access a higher tier or spark-rechargeable resource. I am thinking like, a hammer with a special ability that hits like a bomb used to and exposes materials, but can only be used a limited number of times before needing to be recharged by a spark infuser or something.

  5. Renewable energy! Think windmills or solar panels that generate small amounts of spark per hour. Gives people a reason to build those structures if they want to for aesthetic or functional reasons. But this would make sense with more use of the spark mechanic.

And you get the idea. There are a lot of things you can do. I think you guys are on the right track. But the more people have things to build, functional buildings with high potential to interact with others, the better.


#43

The old graphics were great, i miss it very much. Likely that this is a victim to crossplatform.


#44

I’d like a good lore injection, some directions as to why/who/where. The sanctuary guy judgemental look down on us is killing me…


#45

Meaningful additions to the game, particularly I would use “new content” meaning new systems or clear packs of content I guess. Now you’ve made me think about it I’d say specifically new:

  • systems
  • enemies
  • blocks, meshes & objects
  • ways to interact with the world
  • player goals

Thinking in terms of that list then:

Systems

  • Lore in the world - e.g. objects or prefabs that can bestow knowledge, or can be interacted with to achieve objectives or just present narrative/context, and those being collectable in Knowledge tab would keep those kind of players happy.
  • Buff improvements - more choice, stacking, higher cost recipes for longer duration or death-proofing or both. How comes a bloomin’ wildstock can have more buffs than me, a mighty Citizen? Personally I’d prefer fixed-benefit buffs that aren’t time-based so I don’t lose as much from frequent AFKs but that’s seems like quite a lot of work for little gain.
  • Deepen objectives and achievements - perhaps from 5 tiers to 8 with only 8 being very high numbers. Make more XP available from there and it more likely one’ll ever see it.
  • Skills - cheaper cost, more of them to choose from. Something like the Quirks re-work would be good, e.g. Improved Breathing 1-5, Water Walking Epic and to play with some other player variables we haven’t got our hands on yet.
  • Colours/lighting - this still needs work - refined stone blocks (and others) and their lighting, night should be somewhat darker, day/night cycles could be longer, too-strong world colours need fixing, gleam seems like it is not what it was, many of the colours in the available palette seem muted.
  • Caves like Early Access
  • Combat - Lances, unarmed melee/martial arts skill line, greater Fist variety
  • Reduced recipe costs across the board. Recent recipe additions have been sadly the opposite.
  • Expose more fundamental content with less investment and do more to get the early game to get players to stay - e.g. make better jump & run speed super cheap and a viable option before all the other necessities in their skill tree. Or make short-lived but excellent, dual-wield grappling at L3 a real possibility. An alternative could be a Training Mission type area available from Sanctum where you can get a taste of what’s to come early on. Story-driven games can do this with flash-forwards and whatnot but it’s a bit more tricky here. It just pains me to think how many people play and leave again before they’ve understood how fun the movement in this game can be.
  • Tied into the above and perhaps connected to the notion of “Oortstral Projection” I “joke” about below, I would suggest the game would benefit from a way to show players the terrain variety and colour of later worlds early on. Perhaps a way to sacrifice any benefit gain (you can’t interact with the world or engage enemies?) but be able to freely explore other landscapes and get excited. It takes a lot of time to get good enough to survive on some of the most stunning scenery in game, not just atmosphere skills specifically but the long road to get there. It’d be nice if people could still get hooked on the amazing world hopping early as I could when I joined the game during EA.
  • Other new in-game professions/activities like Farming.
  • Some way to leave comments/likes on others’ builds.
  • More player control over the UI, movable elements, individual element sizing, hiding, show on hover, etc. What you’d expect from the MMO side of the game. Player designed skins.
  • Temporary planets

Enemies

  • New enemies. At least hunters, preferably more.
  • Improved AI. Particularly for higher tier mobs and higher tier as-yet-unseen worlds. Something that isn’t just a bigger bag of HP would be good, e.g. mobs that occasionally self-heal, seek cover and snipe, flank, etc.
  • New spawning systems with greater variety or goals - not just a herd plopping out of thin air and then no enemies for minutes/many squares, e.g. designed encounters like fighting your way down a cavern to a lava floor through levels of mobs, rituals to summon greater numbers, other fancy tweaks to make it more heterogeneous basically.
  • Variety in loot drops - e.g. very small chance for rare drops or new, different creatures could drop more than just their body parts.

Blocks, meshes, assets & objects

  • MORE!
  • Seriously though, more props, wall fixings, etc. first would be good, many beautiful buildings with bare interiors out there.
  • Display stands that show existing object rotation animations to either show off your loot/crafting or to add movement to a build design if used creatively.
  • Toggle to show chunk boundaries in plot view so we can plan machines & meshes better.
  • Toggle to show a block level grid in plot view
  • Glass with thinner edges.
  • Actual window meshes that serve a different purpose to glass blocks (now we can fudge one with signs we may as well have an actual window mesh).
  • I would love a way to set my chisel to e.g. always hit the top right corner of the face I’m hitting until I next set it to another edge or empty the setting. For example, I hold SHIFT and chisel the top-right corner. It now always chisels that corner no matter where I hit the block until I tell it otherwise. Chiselling can be far too fiddly at scale.
  • More outfits, light-emitting body paint, other races.
  • Blink, Dark Matter, Rift.

Ways to interact with the world

  • Lore (see above)
  • Vehicles of some kind or, as that’s expensive to develop, a compromise system like “oortstral projection” or similar where you can travel differently without new objects & systems
  • Cheap, short-lived blocks for “wasting” on public space (e.g. graffiti, decor, fun events, temporary bridges across lava, the excellent suggestion from another poster of scaffolding).
  • Private worlds and the control and tweaking fun that will bring.

Player goals

  • Achievements tweaks - In-game achievements (see above), improved rewards for consecutive timed feats (not just “Get n XP for the week” but also "If you hit all the week’s feats you also get this, or unlock this extra objective), greater variety in daily objectives’ goals and the play systems with which they interact.
  • Post Level 50… not sure what this needs but it needs something. The cubit treadmill is fine if you’re a 500-tabled masochist with a desire for cubits but if you dislike the skill set system and don’t need more plots it doesn’t leave you with much to aim for. Perhaps a reincarnation system where you can go back to L1 with a extra Skill Point available in your active Skill Set (with a cap on it at 120 or something).
  • Easier way to update existing builds - e.g. upgrade boon for chisels - did you build your first castle out of stone because you’d just started but now you want bricks? Take an upgrade chisel to upgrade blocks through their tiers! Perhaps it could be expensive and/or wear quickly to disallow avoiding usual timesinks. I’m thinking people might want to keep their build and not knock it down & rebuild it. Provides other routes to build/block progress. Or maybe a block swap mode where you can give with one hand and take with other to achieve same.
  • Prefabs that act as dungeons with perhaps puzzles as well as mobs (seems you’re half way there with LED blocks & chisels to set them). XP rewards for e.g. finding the attached lore or getting a drop off a boss mob. Preferably available per player rather than per world to avoid tedium & camping.
  • Lore (see above)

I don’t expect this is all achievable I just figured you wanted all the ideas here. 2019-2021 maybe. :slight_smile: