Hey devs awesome job on updates

There are indeed mods, but I have no idea how to install them…hopefully somebody can share their wisdom!

I did find this mumbo jumbo :thinking:

meaning seeing meteors or type of creature from farther away then currently allowed

possibly mentioned as a possible mod should moding be fully supported and implemented in Boundless one day

I just wish they’d either resume development in earnest or pull the plug. This half-existence Boundless has is obviously just people buying the subscription making the game just enough money to throw a man-hour at the project every once and a while and to keep the servers paid up.

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@philelliott how you been long time no see :slight_smile:
any hidden square enix symbols we can look for :wink:
aquatopia has big town ready waiting for the masses lol
i agree with @Stretchious
let the players make the game and the dev’s make the tools to do it and we golden
dev’s should focus on gamemaker tools and we be busy for longtime and bring lots of friends

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Hm, this really isn’t a good sign. Sounds like Square Enix have had enough. I’m surprised anyone can still be optimistic for the future of this game. The comments by Redlotus here and James on another thread where he basically admitted the game is in maintenance mode suggests the end is nigh. You can’t blame the players for spreading negativity after these comments.

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There are many examples I could use, but please bear with me on this analogy…

How many times has someone had to hold a “day-job” to support their art, their passion? Let’s use Youtubers as an example.

Much like any other business, they start small. Those 1k subscribers aren’t paying any bills. Putting in 40+ hrs a week recording, editing, and publishing is followed by another 40hr a week crappy job that pays the bills. This continues until either the channel blows up (which at this point probably won’t happen with the game :thinking:), or that “crappy job” is replaced by something that can support that other project so it may live to see another day.

Thats what I feel is happening here. Some see the absence of the devs as a sign of doom, I see it as a sign of hope. Without the BG3 project, nothing may have saved this game.

If/when it does come to an end, I don’t personally feel like it would be due to lack of caring/trying on the devs part. It would break their hearts just as much as ours.

For anybody who’s about to put me on blast, just know I understand your viewpoint and opinion. I guess I just chose to live a little more optimistically :wink:

edit: added for another analogy :grin:
https://youtube.com/shorts/PITclRIY300?feature=share

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I would totally disagree. No communication barely, over a year and not 1 single update. Further to the point I have been a developer long enough to read the writing on the wall. They are getting more money developing bg3 than they could ever make off of Boundless which was originally never suppose to be a game.
You can hold on to hopw but I have been here many times in my 25 years of gaming and it always ends the same. Team goes quiet, is working on another project and it just falls to the wayside and die.
They will keep taking our money but wouldn’t expect anything other than that sadly. I hope I am wrong but I have seen it way more times than I care to count.

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I hear ya bro. My last ditch faith would be that the if stars do come crashing down, that we are thrown an emergency lifeline. Even Elon Musk has released a mass majority of Tesla’s patents to the public, for fair use. I would hope that if the end did draw nigh, that James would do the same. Allow us to continue our adventures, but on our dime. I know this would immediately cause a significant number of folks to bow out, but I truly believe enough of us would put our money where our mouth is, and keep it afloat…

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The problems I see with wipes and reducing the number of planets are that:

  1. Some people will leave when their builds are wiped, esp. since there is no blueprint system. Maybe some come back eventually, maybe they don’t. That’s less players and less possible income.

  2. There are a handful of players (probably more than a few) with enough plots to basically own several worlds combined. If even some of them decide to use those plots, overcrowding will be a serious issue. The few interesting places on each world to build will be snatched up quick by the rest of the population, and what will be left for the new players? Crappy crumb locations? This will just add to the bad NPE.

  3. I don’t see halving low thousands of dollars of server costs helping in the long run. I mean, that’s likely still thousands of dollars in the negative. Esp. when its a stop-gap measure, and one that could do more harm than good.

(I also don’t think rentable exos are the solution, at least long term. It would would trivialize their loot, possibly/probably eventually impacting anyone crafting at gem or lower tier and trying to make a living at it)

If I had good suggestions, I’d be voicing them, but many if not all depend on developer time. At a minimum, I’d go with finishing private universes and making them fully moddable. At the very least this could get more people buying the game to play with friends, whether they played on the official servers or not. And gleam club and coin purchases could still provide some small income.

Seems like what we really need is a good, open, heart to heart with @james about where we really are, and what we can do, and what they have dev time for, or not.

And yeah, I do feel like we deserve that.

:shrug:

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I’m not sure I could be bothered rebuilding if there was a wipe. I would probably stop renting my sovereigns and play very casually, if at all. Three years of work is too much for me to redo.

I honestly don’t think there’s anything the playerbase can do to fix things, really. What the game needs is more players, and a better rate at retention of those players. If the developer/publisher don’t want to advertise their product to the best of their ability then people just aren’t going to come to it in great numbers.

The only people who can really fix it are the developer and the publisher and there appears to be a real lack of interest in that area at the moment due to BG3.

As it stands the game is still enjoyable and worth playing.

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Player retention would have to happen by fixing the early game. The tutorial quest at the beginning is dull at best and loses alot of players especially kids.

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When I ran ARK servers I ran primarily Roraima, but also Alluvion, that required you to play with a modded avatar that breathed underwater :smiley: Another ARK I ran for a while had a mod for tides.

early game is significantly a downfall. its sad when u have to start a character spend a month flipping in DK mall just to get a few forged AOE hammers. then to realize u could have just sold animal parts u cannot even get without flipping to get forged bows.
bows which u cannot afford.

scarcity of forged weapons/tools & the lack of them will break everything.

Maybe if forging wasn’t such random BULLSHIT, then maybe there would be more forged weapons.
And I don’t know where you started, but in less than a month, I had a titanium slingbow that killed most mobs.

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The things I’ve read from @philelliott make it sound a bit like Wonderstruck are scamming Square Enix at this point, if SE pays for the servers, 100% of the Sovereign money goes to WS (before, I was led to believe that we were paying for our own sovereign servers, but I guess we were actually paying for… the future of the game?), most of WS might not even be working on Boundless anymore, and they are making arrangements with Larian. Add to that the now 9.5 months of waiting for update 249, the general silence outside of fixes… IMHO, it’s looking REALLY bad for WS.

And definitely, if there’s a wipe, WS are gonna lose A LOT of their most faithful players who have been around for a long while. If there’s a wipe, I would certainly not want to return ever, and I would make sure to never ever buy a WS game afterward.

EDIT : I received a message saying this message has been flagged… for being inappropriate? How?

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I know everyone is bored, but this thread did happen

and it resolved like this:
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At least that’s the last I heard of it, and it seemed pretty final.

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Yeah it did. And yet, there are people who wouldn’t mind going the Thanos way, who wouldn’t mind losing their own builds and the builds of others in the process, and who keep floating around that idea every so often, as if that was a good solution. But it’s not.

Here, I think it was suggested as a way to introduce new blocks and natural props into the worlds, but Wonderstruck doesn’t need a wipe to do that. They already introduced new plants with the farming update. I’m sure they could re-generate the un-claimed section of planets with new things on it, while keeping the claimed plots un-touched.

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A Wipe was suggested here as a way to cut the cost of running the game by reducing the number of planets to fit with the number of people actually playing the game so that maybe Square Enix would be making enough to cover the costs and not shut down the servers.

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So now imagine if that persistent universe just… died. :thinking:

That’s what happens when servers are shut down for good. I’m not advocating for a wipe… however If server shutdowns were the current destination, I’d much rather have some form of access to Boundless as a game I love somewhere down the line. For a lot of you - this community, your builds, your inventories - are everything. To some of us, Boundless is just an enjoyable game… and it could still exist and thrive outside of it’s current form. Popular opinion or not.

No, they just need developers dedicated to developing the game… which brings us back to square one. Even if we as players were to create content, it would still require a significant amount of work on Wonderstruck’s end.

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Not sure why everyone is talking about a wipe of the current 50 Known Worlds. It makes no sense. It wouldn’t solve anything for SE or WS. Things that would solve issues:

  1. More time/work
  2. More employees
  3. More content
  4. Marketing
  5. More money
  6. The bad - Removal of most planets altogether, leaving a couple in each region. (Or removal of all planets, to be fair to everyone. Then adding a couple of planets in each region…then grow from there. Yes, people would leave.)

Edit to add: a “wipe” implies a reset or a refresh of things. That wouldn’t help. Removing some things (ie: planets), even though harsh, would help with sustainability.

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