I didn’t, I quoted your whole suggestion, I just highlighted that part of one sentence to ask for confirmation of what you were suggesting, nothing more … I’m not arguing with you or anything else, you put a suggestion on a public forum and I’m just trying to get clarification on it. I would of asked sooner as opposed to after what others have discussed but real life can sometimes get in the way of being on here 24/7 to of been able to ask in a more timely fashion.
passive agressive I like that it’s only ok for you to take one sentence from someone’s post out of context and adjust it to fit your argument, but if someone(who didn’t even) else does it it’s all kinds of problem. You a politician IRL? Cuz uhhh that’s how it feels over here.
Edited for spelling and I just couldn’t resist stirring the pot one last time
Sorry about that
This thread seems to be nothing but Gill baiting everyone to argue and fight.
I think he’s genuinely trying to have a conversation and feels upset by the headstart other players got.
Except lot of people have explained to him that the 14 day advantage we had didn’t matter too much. And he could have had it to if he had been a backer. So all he is doing is beating a dead horse at this point.
What I want to know, is how often does he use Portal Seeker or Ultima Hub portals. Cause that is one of the biggest “advantages” that came with our early start to build up the worlds for new players.
Lol what? WE had an advantage? WE didn’t get to buy people’s titanium bombs. WE didn’t get to hop through portals. We used freaking iron hammers to get diamond for power. You get all the advantages in this community not the ones who worked tirelessly to make this easier and better for you.
So, when did this game become a competition where an advantage is warranted anyway? Kind of thought this was an open-ended sandbox style game, where the player is allowed to do what he/she wants at any given moment no advantages, disadvantages. We ALL have the advantage of being able to play and enjoy such an awesome concept become reality after what 4-5 years?
I’m of a mind that just being the capital and maybe having debuff period once that “title” is achieved to possibly encourage players to build around it is the only bonus that could potentially be beneficial. As stated elsewhere a portal network would be problematic especially once capitals start changing hands more frequently.
Edit: Capital title is only good for bragging rights anyway. Not some game breaking thing at all.
Achievement comes with being viceroy but it’s easy on the newer planets
Oh right Achievements/Trophies. Forgot about that… I don’t pay that much attention to em personally. After all, its just bragging rights, no effect on the game at all… Except maybe getting hit in the head by a meteor O.o that achievement certainly affects ones game for awhile, depending on your level at least.
That’s just not true.
I was an early backer too, and that 14 day headstart was huge. Not only did the dedicated players get first crack at shimmering orbs which are absolutely a limiting factor in this game right now to progress to titanium tools, but they’ve secured immense profit from market control and portal gateways/footfall from early builds.
The reason Gill was getting angry was because people keep downplaying the advantage and ignoring the premise of his argument, which was,
Yes, in time, that advantage is goin’ to narrow, but we shouldn’t pretend that 14 day headstart didn’t establish clear market leaders who’ve been able to exponentially grow their wealth.
And so, the topic at hand has moved onto, “Should capital cities get bonuses, if so what, and should there be incentive to usurp other capital cities?”
I’m a new player and I understand where you are coming from, but I also don’t necessarily agree. The CPCR seems like an okay idea but at the same time, it still wouldn’t be fair. Take Cephonix Merika for example. Capital is United States of Merika. The day that portal opened me and someone else went and grabbed about 9 plots instantly. We had been playing a bit shy of 2 days but we knew what that are would become. Yes, the immediate portal location went from barren desert to shops and it actually took the PS people about 4 days to make any real progress on that hub. There were two portals - Boori and Te. During that time, players were coming in, grabbing plots immediate around there, because that meant they would have prime location for their shop being seen.
Fast forward about a week. My shop managed to take the top spot for prestige in that town but we were only 20k above Cuttletrunk, another town that was not connected to the hub and isn’t very large at all. They shot up to almost match our prestige (currently 46k behind us) and I went to see why. It was being boosted by this lovely art piece: https://i.gyazo.com/dba3cf9a80089aa944e3c62e9309d98e.jpg
Merika is far from a gleam field so we do not have the advantage to step out our door and farm gleam for quick prestige. They may very well pass us in the upcoming days, even with PS Hub being in the heart of our city.
EDIT: Cuttletrunk doesn’t have a large gleam field but they are very close to a field which contains at least 30+ gleam. Compared to US of M having nothing like that within miles, I’d still say it’s a gleam field available right out the front door, or in their case, out the door and down a hill of ice.
Other towns close to gleam fields / on gleam littered planets have done the same with gleam:
Although it’s a really cheap and easy way to stay on top, it took work to farm all of that. You can easily get 10k+ gleam a day and shoot up to being on top with some work. My shop was able to go from 0% to being ~22% of Merika’s overall prestige without spamming blocks of gleam. It took work.
The other cities on our planet are working hard too. I’m not sure if they’re trying for capital or not. Their towns don’t look like they’re trying to become a hub from what I’ve seen, but they could easily do so if they tried. Hubs take a ton of building, planning, money and from what I can tell, the PS people are doing it as a courtesy to other players. Yes, they get footfall monies from it, but that money is also being given to players owning those shops around them and again, if you keep your eyes open and snag up some plots around those portals, you can easily have a capital city too. If you don’t want to make your own hub network, or work for becoming capital then that’s on you.
As for the capital city portal room, if I’m following correctly, you’ve basically described what PS is. They set up portals to other planets which (usually) are the capitals. The only difference is that it’s player made, they get footfall, they have to pay to keep it open, and that town is probably going to remain capital. The thing is, with your idea, nothing is stopping that from happening. Even if there was a capital portal, those capitals, or any town, can still connect to other cities and still make hubs. I’d rather use a player hub than one made up by devs simply because it’s custom built, it’ll be unique, and it will support a multitude of players. There are probably 40+ shops in a player hub, anyone can rent a portal as long as they follow the hub’s rules. In the CPCR, only that one city is supported per planet AND only the shops immediately in the city (nothing far out in the woods, water, etc.) is supposed because of “limited” plots. UNLESS, yet again, someone creates hubs for those people who have settled ages away. As someone else said earlier, if I have to walk more than a 30 - 60 seconds to find a store / it’s stands, I turn around and leave.
I really think hubs are unavoidable and this “problem” with capitals is a loop in itself.
While I do not support your idea, I do support there being another way for someone else to become a capital. Perhaps each town that wants to be a capital could build it’s own monument. Those monuments could then be use to launch attacks on the current capital, which can also attack back. Of course no permanent / real “damage” is done to shops, buildings, etc, other than the monument’s HP, which can be determined by some calculation of the city’s level, the AGE of those plots (lower age = more hp, not by much though), and prestige. The city’s level should be fair too. The city would gain experience from players placing a plot w/ a max out of exp of up to 5 plots per player. Meaning, if Bob the Builder places 10 plots and Dora the Explorer places 7, the city only gets credit for 5 from him and 5 from her. Of course that number is just an example. The city can also gain exp from players donating materials (wood, stone, gleam, etc.) to the monument. These items never go into another player’s possession and has a value equal to their respective prestige values. The cities can also gain exp from their total prestige, up to idk… 500k? Seems easy enough to get even for a new / small town.
Anyway, lots of calculations in that, but it could work and still be fair for new players with a decent town that isn’t just a giant gleam tower. I suppose there could be some perks to higher level cities but nothing crazy that would make the “battles” one sided.
Feel free to correct me if I was wrong on anything.
Sorry this was so long
In a response I can say that the obvious leaders were going to be the leaders from the last universe with or without a headstart so your point is moot. Aquatopia and Portal Seekers would have not only had a huge following off the bat, it would have negated the new folks who didn’t play in the last universe and don’t have the knowledge we have. Shimmering orbs have been the same as always so I don’t see why you brought that up. Also I don’t think the capital thing shouldn’t be changed! It shows up on the world as a location to go to anywhere on the planet and that alone gives you some direction to head in. And if you are a newby and place a building near the capital you’ll have a huge amount of footfall
No that doesn’t moot my point.
Hmmm the biggest guilds with the biggest followings… Or some new players who never played the game before and needed to establish things like how to get prestige and how to get further in the game… hmmm… Nope you’re right. That 14 day headstart is what got them all the prestige to not be beaten. Not the players following the guilds
Serenitylove makes a good point. Headstart or not those who had influence before 1.0 will keep that influence after. With or without a headstart Ultima Hub and Portal Seekers would still be #1. Only we would be a bit less on prestige and size of cities around those hubs.
I’m probably wrong but the initial idea stated that it’s a chance for a new capital city to remain a capital city if you aren’t a pre-release player. So does that mean the special portal blocks wouldn’t be available to any pre-release players? plus the argument for them is supposedly because all pre-release players have a massive head start and we all apparently have portal hubs and therefore I guess we all have Capital Cities. If that is the case then I don’t see how having these special portal blocks is going to make any difference because if we all already have all the Capital cities how would any non pre-release player make a new one to get the special portal blocks in the first place?
No, I am not baiting people, but I am also not going to let people put words in my mouth and tell me that 14 days is not an advantage.
Don’t forget that the money they do get from footfall goes towards buying the huge quantity of oort shards that they need especially at the current price of 100c
Let’s be clear. That picture of Cuttletrunk Tower, I personally mined on Kada for hrs. In 36 hrs I personally mapped the entire planet and mined probably entire planet of all its gleam. Just on one character almost mined over 17,000. The other 2 characters are just as much. So hate to burst your bubble, there’s no huge gleam field here. It’s called portal to Kada and do some grinding. I have 136+ hrs since release. Also incase you’re slightly color blind, gleam on Merika is blue. So again where’s this huge white gleam field out our front door??
MIC DROP
This right here. Ultima Hub needs about 50,000c a day worth to really keep it afloat so they have a LOT of work on their plate