Particularly painful forging

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AOE T6. I make exo mosaics and concrete. They make it so much easier for gathering gravel and sand.

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So you want AOE, extra DMG. And durability? Or speed?

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Durability aye.

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Personally I donā€™t use protection paste, instead I would add boon removal solvent, like @Trickyy90 suggested. That will give you a chance to flush out an unwanted boon without scrapping the whole thing

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For AoE I use corrupt boon 1, fate paste, protection paste, defect removal catalyst, boon removal (deconstructing over and over hurts my soul) And vigour 2
Gums: effect, special, long/lightness
I only forge up to 5 at a time doing this.

To forge 9 at a time I use the same deck but I use corrupt 1 and draining 1, and swap out the defect reversal (then just be really careful and keep an eye on that defect bar. Try only use the corrupt if itā€™s gonna be the last few rolls before using vigour cat.)

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A post from the master :blush: this reply helped me SO much when I was learning the ways of the forge

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this is how I do AOE tools with speed, you need to change the lightness gum for longevity gum

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Thanks!! I really only forge for me. Occasionally I sell one or two when I need a little coin so experimenting scares me. If I mess up then I have wasted time I could have spent doing something I actually wanted to doā€¦like getting stuff to build something. :smiley:

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Yeah a lot of it is experimenting to start out with, and it can be rather pricey! I remember the frustration when I was struggling for Cs. The original thread of how to make Cs was my way of finding out how to become rich :laughing:
Iā€™ll say this though, itā€™s forging that did it for me! It took a while of learning, and being able to afford the mats but once you do start selling them (or stop buying them for personal use) youā€™ll find it really is an excellent money maker/saver!

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Start with the damage and dura. Work on AOE last. Use 3 to 4 special gums. If you magnet level it to 3 and use transmute. It will turn to AOE 4

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I always set damage then aoe then longevity personally.
I find I can judge how long to spend on my third boon based on the vigour and stability I have left. So if both are still above 1000 on my third boon I can sink a few more compounds into that one before getting my AoE up to 4, then I just focus on adding damage until Iā€™m out of stability

And I tend to use 2 gums when setting my boons and just 1 gum when levelling them

I feel like many people (including me ha) get stuck in a forging method they are used to, experimenting is the best way to find what works for you! :smiley:

Oh, and when I was practising I used to just forge one tool at a time, limits the frustrations xD

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. Iā€™ll give it all a try!!

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If you try mine, have in mind that I dont forge the full damage! I use str brews instead

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Ive been forging the same way for about a year and a half. Has not failed me yet. Very little headaches. Somecdays seems the forge is rigged but those days are few. I can put out a 350 T6 hammer in less than 2 mins with my eyes closed.

Mostly comes down to compounds u use. And transmute or solvent. I stay away from solvent it has a habbit of putting the skill u remove back on

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With your eyes closed huh? Impressive :wink: ha

I think Iā€™ll do some experimental forging myself when Iā€™m next on!

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https://boundless.mayumi.fi/forgeSimulator/#tool=shovel

I use this to practice. Iā€™m not sure if the probabilities have been confirmed. Below, whenever I say ā€œ1/2ā€ you should interpret it as ā€œless than 1/2, because of a chance that you get a boon that has nothing to do with your gum.ā€ Using more gums makes this ā€œ1/2ā€ more like 1/2 and less like 1/3.

Vanstenā€™s method has a little less than 1/2 chance to get damage, 1/2 chance to get AoE, longevity is basically guaranteed, so youā€™ll try on average 4-6 times to succeed 1 time.

Orrianā€™s method of damage and dura first and using a transmute to guarantee the AoE means you try 2+ times (mainly on the damage step, and I assume 2 effect gums, boons, VC, 3 long gums, boons, VC) to succeed 1 time. But you spend vigour and coin and a forge slot on transmute half of the time, adding about 500c to your average hammer cost for the transmute, and more if the vigour cost requires more pastes to be used.

Cuetzpaloā€™s method of 1 gum Special, 2 gums Effect is interesting. Roughly 1/2-1/3 the time you succeed to find AoE, but then since you leave the special gum in, roughly 1/3 the time you succeed to find Damage. If you succeed 1/6-1/9 of the time, you have to try about 6-9 times to have a success. In the video they have 4 decon resin remaining, which means they used 7 and tried 8 times for 1 success.

The chance to fail N times in a row is (failure rate)^N. Sometimes things with 5-10% chance happen.
Vansten: (4/5)^10 ~ 10%, (4/5)^13 ~ 5%. So some of the time youā€™ll get 10 or 13 failures in a row.
Orrian: (1/2)^N: 3-4 failures in a row. (1/3)^N: 5-7 failures in a row.
Cuetzpalomitl: (7/8)^N: 17-22 failures in a row have a 5-10% chance of happening. RNG is not their friend ho ho ho.

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I use the same mats as you. But use them differently. :+1:

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Edited. Didnt even see the replies. My bad xD

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@james messing with your forge

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Damage and Effect Adjacent is 42% each and Longevity is not guaranteed, you have a 70% chance of getting it with two gums. That makes it 0.42 * 0.42 * 0.7 = 0.12348 which is about 1 in 8 tries. That does not include the chances to fail after the initial selection process which makes it even less than 1 in 10 depending on your technique. Using protection and fate pastes until all vigor is gone makes it 1 in 13. I have gone over 30 failures in a row before on multiple occasions.

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