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I tossed fuel in one my my alts beacons and for whatever reason there was 0 coin in it when the alt went to fill it and itâs the only one able to access the coins.
This was the only one that had this issue and it has more prestige them most of this other characters beacons so thatâs not an issue as the others all had coins.
It seems this was an issue for some since the 211 release so itâs also an issue.
The main part is a 3x3 plot area and itâs connected to a bridge thatâs 1x20 then the other end has a 2x3 area of plots so if this âbridging settlementsâ issue is still causing 0 coin to be given this needs to be looked at.
I.m playing since november and total amount of coin from footfall is 5 192c
correction: iâve start playing before hallowen event so its in october lol
I am. Footfall is a social program to make sure every single player no matter how casual can participate in the economy. Itâs paid for by the coin sinks in the game: currently the global tax rate, warp costs, and guild buffs.
As long as the footfall collected by the active playerbase exceeds the coin leaving the system from taxes, warps, and helixes, footfall isnât broken.
If the footfall handed out to someone isnât enough for their playstyle, theyâre going to have to go out into the world and figure out how to take someone elseâs footfall. Usually by finding a buyer and selling them something at a fair price. But an entire prisonerâs dilemma of options are available.
I think we have a lot of the following behaviors:
- Players who mistakenly thought they were in a lower class, expecting larger handouts then they received.
- Players focusing on day-to-day trends instead of taking time to observe a system that is built as a function of days. (Player testing has verified this.)
- Players not realizing that chunk/guild changes have lowered their settlement ranking (e.g. Town to Hamlet) and that ranking determines the base multiplier for all footfall.
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I suspect its the 1x20 area that is causing a âbridging settlementsâ issue. If you could make it into 3x20x1 (with 1 being height) or 1x20x3 (with 3 being height) it should properly connect. Sometimes even 2 wide is enough, depending.
If you canât tell if one of the beacons is in the invalid state, PM me the location and Iâll take a peek for you.
The issue is I have no issues with the bridging settlements part that the update broke as Itâs mainly there for the bridge aspect for other players to use.
However it producing no coins when it had no issues before is a serious issue and people have made posts about it as this also.
Adding a ton of extra plots to itâs height, sides is not possible with other peoples builds near it, would be a waste of plots really for this character.
Just a shame if this is the case for people who do bridges or roads and cannot fix it on their end other then adding a ton of plots vertically as these are important for settlements and getting around with.
Well, one of the causes for producing zero footfall are beacons that fall into the âbridging multiple settlementsâ state, so really to my knowledge adding plots is the only way to fix it when thatâs the case.
You could also try to merge the âroad/bridgeâ beacon with another of your beacons (which would require replotting the entire thing) and maybe thereâs a chance that it could help, since at least as far as footfall goes, having it all in one beacon or split over multiples makes no real difference.
If you want to have it as a separate beacon for aesthetic purposes tho (to have a different name than the main beacon) then the only solution I can think of is adding more plots. 
I guess in summary, anybody who factored footfall into their playstyle now hates it, those who hated the idea of all things footfall love the change, those who hate portal hubs love the change, and those who never paid attention to footfall are scratching their heads wondering what all the fuss is about.
As long as the economy can stay relatively stable itâs whatever I guess.
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Does it really need a poll ??
If you personally do not wish to read about footfall then do not read topics that are labelled with the word footfall or coin or economy - easy
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For a particular plot column to be valid it must have 9 plots additively within itself + the 8 plot columns around it. So if you donât want to or canât add to the width (2wĂ2h works) then you must add 2 plots to height (1wĂ3h works). Your bridge must also be over 10k prestige.
Just know that if there are individual settlements on each side of your bridge that they will become merged together + your bridge once youâve fixed the plotting.
The system is working as intended now as roads were intended to be able to be built without unintentionally linking settlements. The unfortunate side affect is that footfall generation is a settlement system and only is generated in valid settlements.
I agree with all you said but footfall doesnât really match your idea. First, footfall does not reward building, but strategically clever claiming. And second, footfall is permanent. Claim once early on and reap the rewards forever.
There should be more rewards for building and less for claiming. How to do that I have no idea.
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A separate âlikesâ system where each like a building receives generates a bit of coin. Ideally each character would have, say, 5 or 10 âlikesâ a day to give so theyâd have to think about who theyâre giving those to. This could also interact with the prestige system as an additional multiplier but thatâs optional.
And if people want to use that to further support their favorite youtube personality or whatever so be it (because I know this example will get thrown at some point, like every time a likes system is suggested). I see nothing wrong with rewarding content creation as well with this system.
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Very true, Most people as myself that enjoys building opens social projects. I own a mall, and before the update, I was making enough for my time and mats that i keep putting into it. Its gettin better with the small fixes. But almost not worth the time here lately. Some days, time gets tight. Its hard to put time into the project and still go find hunts to help supply oort because footfall is no where near enough to fund the portals i keep open.
It just felt right before the update. It feels off at the moment. Everyone just keeps telling me to go create money farming or gathering. Thats not creating any money. Thats just moving money, and deleting 10% at the same time. Nothing being generated.
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Iâm happy to come and look at this beacon.
If the beacon does have a skinny bit (which could be a bridge - say) then one solution is to split that part into itâs own beacon. Align all of it to your guild and the fat parts will generate their prestige again.
This is an opinion independent of data.
Here is a chart tracking median footfall per data for all players.
(Reminder that median is: put everyone in order and ask the middle person what they got.)
There is a dip when we did the release. And weâve tweaked the a balance since and the median is higher than ever.
The majority of players are getting more footfall.
The change we made in Release 123.1, was another step to balancing the configuration. Today will be the first 24 hour period that contains the full release. The partial data from yesterday already showed a marked improvement.
A plot actually needs 5 plots around it to not be a road.
The initial update was set to 8 based on image based comparisons of settlement maps before and after the change. But we quickly realised that this broke too many beacons that were very carefully plotted and we altered it to 5.
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Yeah, my testing was indicating higher than both pre-211 configurations already, given a somewhat even mix of repeat and new visits.
Iâve been saying this for a while but I think one of the main problems here is that people are, first of all, noticing only their daily footfall rather than their average footfall over time, and in that case a bunch of cognitive biases would make the cases when the daily take is lower than expected stick out in their memory more than when itâs higher, and second, that when they see a lower number than they were expecting they immediately generalize this to the entire population which is, of course, not necessarily true.
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Just to make sure I understand, that means that if you have square beacon, the corners of your area will always be roads unless you build vertically on the corner plot and one other âtouchingâ plot, (or 2 touching plots) right?
The question wasnât to me, however Iâve seen this happen a few times with my own beacons. Those road-like corner plots donât usually break settlements in my experience, tho, because in general people plot âcubesâ and neighboring cubes wouldnât be connected only by those corner road-like plots, so that tends to work out fine in practice, for most cases anyway.
If you have a neighbor (with your beacon being Y plots):
X X X R Y Y
X X X Y Y Y
X X X Y Y Y
that would be fine.
If you had two neighbors, one being Z:
Z Z Z Z Z Z
X X X Y Y Y
X X X Y Y Y
X X X Y Y Y
Those corner road plots tend to go back to regular ones, even if plotting only at 1 height.
I think with the changes from 8 to 5 even the X and Y example would be converted now, since it seems to count diagonals.
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Does this data indicate an increase in grand total footfall for the system overall, or just a higher number for the median person� Also glad to see that the process is ongoing and being looked at on a regular basis and not just every month or two.
The chart plots median for all players per day (and nothing else).
- The 5 plots donât have to be your plots, these can also be the plots from your neighbor.
- A road is only a problem if it connects two settlements. If you donât have a neighbor, a plot marked as âroadâ on the debug screen doesnât prevent footfall from being generated.
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