Prestige for each block/prop

[james]

@Pseudonym84

Even for testing purposes, I personally dislike the idea that we’re judging builds on a plot by plot basis. I’d rather have a system that based the prestige value on the build as a whole, not what players do with each individual plot.

The Prestige system doesn’t judge builds on a plot by plot basis. But I was attempting to get a better comparison between the examples you’d brought up.

@Pseudonym84

The current system is trying to calculate prestige based simply on what’s built within a plot or build, not on how things are placed in relation to one another - which colours work better together, how the lighting effects the build, how accessible the build is, the build against the backdrop of the surrounding area or how different shapes were used to make certain patterns.

Can we leave this to the side? The Prestige system doesn’t attempt to do this. No one claims it does. It never will. The layout of the blocks isn’t considered.

But for the record the system does take into account airblocks as a ratio of blocks across the build exactly to allow players to have larger open areas.

@Pseudonym84

As for ways to improve the current system, you know my thoughts already. I’ve never been for ‘binning’ your system, but I’m adamant that player input is the missing ingredient.

I’m not opposed to player input. But we don’t want a system that can be easily abused by unfriendly players.

@SWProzee1

Don’t you think that when people love this game they would build large things anyway ? I see the same in Minecraft, people who love it will build large things, and Minecraft does not have a prestige system.
And one cannot avoid mud-houses, even if you score mud blocks -100 inside a beacon, people who make mud-houses probably don’t care.

This appears to miss the point. Yes - people who love building will build with or without the system. But one of the reasons the system has been implemented was to encourage the players who aren’t naturally building.

@Pseudonym84

I resent that! The Cuttlecombs is mostly mud, growth and (your) sponge! I don’t think a player should be discouraged for any one block being used - it stifles creativity. This isn’t their intention though. They’ve already mentioned they want to work around this.

?? This appears to miss the point. It has nothing to do with materials. Players can use whatever they want.

@Pseudonym84

And yet if you were to collect all those blocks together, and rearrange them within those plots into a mess, then chisel a few, the result would technically be more ‘prestigious’.

It’s just another case for player input.

For me this is a perverse point. Obviously that build is stunning. And you would imagine that whoever created it would have put as much love and care into sculpting blocks and finding the perfect tints, etc. So they would have scored more in the Prestige system.

But yes, absolutely, if they chose not to sculpt any blocks (and strangely) limit there own creativity, and another player placed the same blocks with sculpting then they would score more.