[quote=“Xaldafax, post:150, topic:33508, full:true”]
I continue to see post from a variety of people that basically say the same thing as above. They just dismiss my and others views that there is a problem. I get we all do that a lot in the forum, but when people keep saying something, it likely means something is up. So instead of just shooting down the idea maybe try to gain more clarity and information on why the person is feeling that way.
So people will understand that the guild update solved nothing for the root of the problem I am talking about:
I can understand what you are saying, what you need to understand is that many of us not so muchres ignoring what you believe, we just see it differently.
I was a member of the debate team in college and in a sociology class had to make a ruling on a topic where two groups debated a idea and make a decision on who gave the best argument. That was hard to do, as with one group I was in total agreement, but unfortunately, they did a horrible job in providing their reason for their viewpoint, so I had to rule against them. A “Because” is not justification, there needs to be a reason for seeing a different side, one that can be argued, in a fair and polite manner and allowing the other side to be seen as having the right to have their side.
That is the problem here, many are stating their reasons, in a informative manner, but othres seem to see it as not seeing what they are saying. They do, they just don’t agree with it. Ying and Yang, black and white, up and down, left and right, opposites, to both sides. Both sides believe they are right and sometimes, Both are right, it is just what that person or group sees as more important.
I love olives on a pizza, can’t stand the taste of onions on a pizza, it ruins it for me, I’d throw it in the trash and refuse to eat it, even if I took the onions off I’d refuse to eat it. He is the same with olives, to him it ruins the pizza. Neither of us is right or wrong, because we see it differently doesn’t make my perception as wrong, as I go enjoy your onions on your half of the pizza and he goes enjoy the olives on your half.
Acceptance, we have out different opinions, of perceptions of what is the right way, or what we see as more important than others. It doesn’t make others totally wrong, nor does it make us totally wrong, or refusing to see what others believe, just that we see it, believe it differently. And want anyone who disagrees with us to respect our right to see it that way.