I wholeheartedly agree! This should be perma ban territory. Screenshot evidence is there. Get this salted slug dung off the servers!
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Nice. Great feature! Thanks dev!
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Is there a way for developers to confirm a player has messaged abuse etc after they have been reported? No disrespect to anyone and Iām by no means saying this is the case here but screen shots can easily be photoshoped. If I was being insulted then Iād definitely take a screenshot of it to report but Iād also assume that someone can check to verify my accusation. If not then the system can be open to abuse. ā¦ as far as penalties then racist comments like that should surely be a total ban although I realise friends can sometimes say stupid things to each other and anyone seeing those comments wonāt necessarily realise that and could report it which is why any accusation would have to be thoroughly investigated.
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All user generated content (UGC) is captured and logged so that we can review complaints, etc. This include: user names, beacon names, settlement names, chat, sign text, etc.
We take this stuff seriously and weāll have more reporting / ignoring / muting / blocking / banning / parental controls coming online as we gradually prepare for 1.0.
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Thatās reassuring to know 
genius, though exploitable or able to use to harass others with. Imagine the same angry 9 year old who wants to express his emotions, by dinging you with a negative point.
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hey you aplying for sherif duty in aquatopia you seem like a cool dude 
perhaps, unless there was a cooldown for voting for say like a day or a week (iād lean towards week)ā¦ not a whole lot can change in a build in less than a week unless itās a large collaboration.
nahhh, iām too lazy for that 
Yeah, restrictions needed, but, whatever, we will not see such a thing in the game soo who cares))
What about : One is either a good Oort or a Bad Oort. It takes 3 people to flag someone negatively and then that person would gain the position of Bad Oort.
But then it takes 6 positive flags to go back to being a Good Oort.
Being a good Oort can give a 5% discount at certain stores, or even could regulate (If a Mayor chooses to use it) if someone is able to build within so many hundreds of cubes from any township. Also one could lose 5% extra on every purchase while in Bad Oort status.
There needs to be a good and a bad reason to maintain Good Oort status.
Frankly, any reputation-based system will be abused to some degree.
Likewise, any moderation will be biased or flawed in some way.
I know those two solutions are probably inevitable to a degree, but frankly I prefer just being able to blacklist someoneāmute them and disallow them from visiting my builds.
If I can keep people from doing me harm, thatās sufficient for me.
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Well, you can defend/shield yourself, but what about others? Children will play this game, people who donāt know how mmo works, simply guys who only starts to play and etc. Several words is enough to ruin someones expirience and mood. We need options to isolate this ābad seedsā, bcs if griefer canāt do harm to you, he find someone else and so on and so on.
The offending player bought the game, generated the captured unsuitable chat, then refunded the game.
We have banned their Steam ID from re-entering the game in the future.
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@Inwrd I disagree. We donāt need those options in my opinion. I have a 9-year-old son who plays the game, and heās perfectly capable of muting/blacklisting someone if he needs to.
My reasoning is just that this sort of thing tends to be abused. Iāve been shut down plenty of times just because people didnāt like my opinion or wanted to punish me because they didnāt like me.
Itās left a bad taste in my mouth.
If I were sure I could trust other peoplesā judgment I wouldnāt have any problem with it.
I CAN see the value of having vision of who other people have muted or blacklisted. That could be helpful, but I personally wouldnāt want other peoplesā judgments in that area to automatically apply to me. (Meaning I wouldnāt want the people they muted to not be able to talk to me.)
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We donāt need (devs, not us btw) options to punish griefers, hackers (can be an issue when pvp goes live) and etc., because you and your son know how to mute/blacklist? Pretty ego-centric conclusion. For example two weeks ago I introduced my mother to this game. She is 50y old and she is delighted with the bright world of Boundless, and I definitely do not want any little freak to spoil her time spent in the game. People are different, your son maybe know how to defend himself another may not know, my mom is example of players that need protection.
And my reasoning, that in all years of gaming i never been banned or even muted (as far as i know), I do not know what you did and how you deliver your āopinionsā if mods banned you. People doesnāt make the decision, mods/devs are. And if those mods/devs use ban hammer as they wish - maybe just donāt play such a crappy game?
And why you think mute/blacklist can solve all problems? People can do abusive, rude things without a word. What you gonna say if some funny guy take plot right after your son territory and start to build disturbing āstatuesā with sex scenes or violence. You mute him?) Boundless not ordinary mmo, players can deform landscape make permanent changes to it, save and preserve their creationsā¦ And abominations too.
And i donāt say we need to ban everyone and everything lol, but devs need tools to isolate negative driven players (temp or perma, whatever) And this is not subject to discussion. Subject is how and for what.
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āThis is not subject to discussion.ā
ā¦Well, if you pay close attention now, you may be able to see why I have the sort of opinion I do even if itās an unpopular one. Youāve essentially just said that Iām wrong and youāre right and my opinion is invalid and unwelcome.
I hope you can see the irony in this.
Itās not the mods Iāve had problems with in other games. Itās people who think they know better than me and can sit on me because they donāt like my opinion.
ā¦Specifically what I object to is the idea that some sort of popularity contest should determine who is in good standing in the community. If there are specific, clearly-stated rules (like āno sexual or violent scenesā) and the devs decide to enforce those (and use player feedback to do so) Iām fine with that.
Some sort of moderating is normal in this sort of environment.
The closer the model gets to a popularity contest where people can essentially grief you because they donāt like what you have to say, the more I object to it.
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Yeah, you just ignored most part of my answer and clung to the part that you find āironicā. I retype this for you. I essentially just said that ādevs need tools to isolate negative driven playersā, and "this is not subject to discussion. Subject is how and for what." And now you behave like a āminorityā accusing me of pressure and hostility for no reason.
But at the same time agreeing with me
If there are specific, clearly-stated rules (like āno sexual or violent scenesā) and the devs decide to enforce those (and use player feedback to do so) Iām fine with that.
I retype this for you again this is not subject to discussion. Subject is how and for what and that what we discuss here. How and for what.
And where i said that your opinion is invalid and unwelcome? I said that itās very ego-centric, because all you said everytime that you got banned several times in games. And all you saying is āsomeone donāt like my opinion.ā So if i understand this correctly you got banned in some game where players can downvote to hell other players straight to ban. And now you are offended and you suspect everyone around in hostility to you?
The closer the model gets to a popularity contest where people can essentially grief you because they donāt like what you have to say, the more I object to it.
I donāt know where you got this thing about āpopularity contestā. There was no discussion about āpopularity contestā. And i canāt define why you trying arguing about this thing with me, lol. In our talks about keeping out people from your territiory? There are no āpopularity contestā, this is like muting, if i donāt want to see you in my territory i can prohibit to enter, simply as that.
These things generally need to be moderated to some degreeā¦ this ensures that any bad marks placed on a player are fair and most importantly consistent. If you allow players to place a black mark on others, their opinion is subjective and often swayed by any emotion felt at the time.
I think any system that allows another player to freely Black mark a player, which any other player can then see, should be avoided at all costs.
Also any ability to block a player from accessing your build should be avoided in my opinion. Itās too open for abuse, especially if that player is surrounded by people that are trying to oust them from a prime location. Youād essentially be blocking them from entering their own plots.
Muting and a well established reporting system based on a clear concise rule set of what is not allowed in game should suffice.
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It is a typical practice that reporting system works as an anonymous line between player and admins.
It is normal and fair that players donāt vote/mark themselves in any way and its a healthy way to deal with toxic players by simply reporting them and leaving the rest to the admins as they will have the bigger picture and tools to evaluate all reports.
As much as we donāt want toxic players in game we also donāt want players organizing crusades against other players (no matter how justified they seem to be).
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