Boundless now self published on Steam

We get it dude. You don’t think communication with your community is important.

It is.

Even if you have nothing meaningful to communicate, a sense of community is absolutely monumentally critical to the health of your game. This has been proven over and over and over and over again in the industry.

Do you have an example of a community that had no development work, but did have development contact over an extended period of time that I could look into how it was handled and how the community responded?

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Rift

The game is literally still going and actually is about to get a major update after many years. The last expansion was in 2017 and the game went on a long dev hiatus. Trion had dedicated community manager(s) the entire time. They basically survived off of in-game events (that were mostly recurring so no new dev needed) and community engagement.

Also, wanted to punt a strawman you put up:

In asking for a community that “had no development work, but did have development contact over an extended period of time”, the implication is that Boundless’ devs have been effectively communicating so long as there has been active development. This is false. Their communication has been very awful for a very long time and that awfulness long predates them halting all development.

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CV another one with a long-delayed update, here’s how this one is being handled - What happened to content updates? :: Creativerse General Discussions (steamcommunity.com)

I’m just bringing this one up as they did something that could work here perhaps - hired on a very talented fan as a contract worker, both for development and for community interaction. Obviously there is the budget question but I’ve seen enough talent and offers of help here to think maybe something similar could be worked out? Contract workers could be taken on remote, at a minimum wage and without benefits.

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I should have said Creativerse myself. Another great example of a game being really slow/pausing development yet keeping engagement up with their community.

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There wasn’t really a strawman, since I didn’t attack it, and I actually wanted to know if you had any examples. I’m attempting to look at Rift, but it looks like a lot of the discussions have been deleted. Still interesting to see how the “yes they actually kept communicating through the lack of updates” goes since I’ve never seen it happen before.

Edit: I know that in the past I’ve been a jackass, especially to you, but I don’t take myself or these forums anywhere near as seriously as I did before. Divorce, a year of therapy, antidepressants, anxiolytics, ADHD treatment, and blood pressure medication change a person.
I want to be less narcissistic, more inquisitive, and more lighthearted than before, but I’ll probably miss the mark some still.

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Sorry to hear that, I hope things get better for you!! And totally understand - life events here have absolutely turned my personality, made me more cynical and WAY less trusting… if any trust left for anything at all I suppose. I try to keep the more negative aspects under control in various ways, but I know it has leaked out on here!

… And I try to have sympathy for the devs on that front when I find my emotions with this game/situation spiraling, remind myself that I don’t know if maybe they’ve had life crises too. Last few years haven’t been easy for anybody.

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These forums are for discussion, and I enjoy that. I also respect everyone on here even if our beliefs, needs and wants are totally different. I try to remain as neutral as I can in every discussion for the simple fact you never know what someone else might be going through.

Someone might be on the verge of a major life-changing event or even life-ending sickness (hope not), so I just try and take all that into consideration when it comes to the community and the dev team.

It’s so simple to communicate and look at all of us doing it and mostly civilized conversation with the occasional one off.

We are all passionate about the game and that has always been my point. I am passionate about the game and the community, and I would hate something as simple as communication driving a stake into the game.

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u see - we can achieve the same effect with way less words and more imagery :grin: :joy:

Hahahaha. I totally watched that. :ok_hand::ok_hand: so funny. Ty.

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Not going to lie…I tend to skip or skim a lot of posts because they are the same things over and over again. However, I read EVERY post that has been flagged I come across.

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Have to say, ENTU is the main reason why that community is the way it is. Sure there are a few bad apples as players but overall the community is helpful. very very helpful! That to me would be a great example

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it’s really something when people flag your post on here all because ya say the truth and they don’t like it, and they send you a direct IM as well which based on their wording, only solidifies my statements.

So, I’ll happily say it again (shorter version)

  1. if a large portion of my clients that were paying for a service I was providing told me they were going to abruptly cancel paying me, I know damn well I would take some kind of action.
  2. I strongly believe that anyone on here complaining in anyway about the devs not providing an update are “Insane”. Now to clarify (as i’m sure someone will be like “ohh you are calling people names” and try to flag this post… look up the definition of insanity from Albert Einstein …

# Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

so if we want different results from anyone (in this case, james and/or the devs) we need to do some kind of different action ourself. Not justifying others that spoke out of line bashing James and his Diner decisions :laughing: … but at least they tried something new to try and get a different reaction from the devs. Everyone else that is paying for services and still complaining, I say again… cancel your server. Enough people do that and they will show there true colors… If they truly still care about continuing the game they will show a desire and give us an update… or they will show they don’t care anymore by continuing to stone wall / ghost us.

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I am not paying for gleamclub or a sovereign in order to get more updates to the game. I am paying for gleamclub so I don’t have to fuel my beacons and so I can have custom chat color and the extra color channels and free colors for my character. I am paying for my sovereign so I can own and use my sovereign.

I am paying for a service, and I am getting that service.


Side note about Einstein

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I don’t believe it would get us communication/answers if we were to do that - I strongly suspect they’d simply pull the plug, since then they’d definitely be operating at a loss. Doing the general math, there is no way this game is making them much profit, their income is coming from their other work now. The money they’re pulling in might not even be covering the costs of the servers - which is why I’ve expressed the fears I have, that they may be in preparations to take those down. At this point, it may be just a matter for them of trying to preserve in some form the legacy of the game they had such high hopes and passion for… and while I take them at their word that they’re thick-skinned and can take our griping, withdrawing financial support I feel is another matter entirely, which could easily push them to just stop trying and we meet the sad fate of a sudden door-shutting.

I will continue to financially support them with my purchases as I want the game to keep running as it is, and even if the servers go down that would be the end for me, hopefully my contributions would help with getting the game to the point where others here could still enjoy it in some form.

Not to mention that, like @Rydralain, I like the GC service, and really enjoy my rentals. And on the rentals, I want to keep doing that for this community I love so much.

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Maybe people need to start mailing letters (real paper letters, not emails) ,every week to both studios they work at. Maybe that get some attention.

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