DKPoll: notifications when people open portals; More shard slots; portals needing fuel notifs; larger same planet portals. Now with (new) pie charts!

Maybe that just means ALOT of small ones close together rather than just one small one? I dunno.

His last comment about making it better fuel wise for bigger portals would suggest otherwise

That’s distance

But from what Luca has told me, portals between same-region same server are cheapest for WS, portals between same region diff server (say Raxxa to Tana) are a tiny bit more expensive and portals between regions are the most expensive.

I really don’t think number of conduits matters in any way except client side

I presume Aenea is saying the same thing right now

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Yes, that’s the exact same bit I quoted!

But ‘smaller ones’ refers to ‘smaller jumps’

What is costly is the amount of portals, not the size. Five smaller jumps means 5 planets that need to be loaded for the player, one big jump means only 1 needs to be loaded.

But the comment about changing the fuel he made seems to suggest against what you’re saying. But hey what do I know. I can only comment on how I view what he said since it doesn’t come straight out and say.

I’m also pretty sure janes said something about portal and data before too. But too lazy to dig thru everything. And I also could be wrong so there’s that too lol

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Yes, because 5 shorter jumps and thus smaller portals costs them more than 1 big portal.

If they then change it in game that all small portals cost more than it encourages us to use more larger portals because it IS cheaper for them to have LESS JUMPS and thus LESS PORTALS…

It’s all about the number of portals, the more portals going to different planets/areas means they need to download more data from the servers than if we would use 1 portal (which in game means bigger) straight to the destination…

I get it, but how I read it it’s about the number of portals between point A and B. If there’s one portal going straight to B they only need to load data for B. That it means that it’s farther away and thus needs a bigger portal is not really relevant.

I miss EA 2x3 cheap portals.

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Try testing

Unlimited free shards

I still don’t understand why t5t6 is the way it is. All those hops are such a waste of server resources.

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In testing it is better use amalgam.

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I also don’t understand how one portal makes 5 jumps. So there’s that too lol

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That’s not at all what he said or what I said at all!

Planet A and planet F, I want to go from A to F, I can open ONE LARGE portal to F straight away that costs a heck of a lot of oort

OR

I can make several smaller portals A → B → C → D → E → F which costs way less oort for me so I take this route since oort is expensive and/or hard to get.

BUT

for the game it costs more because they need to load data and send it to the player’s client who uses the route of planets B, C, D, E and F, while the more oort costly route only would need to load data from planet F.

So if they change the oort costs of smaller portals which have a shorter distance than bigger portals which have a longer distance to make bigger portals cheaper than we will open A → F portals more easily!

If I open a 1x2 portal from A → B it costs the game as much as if I open a 5x4 portal from A → B. It’s not about size really, it’s about the amount of portals and amount of different planets/areas that need to be loaded…

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He said 1 portal makes 5 jumps tho sooo.

But I guess if you put it as A,B,C,D,E, F and A->F that would be 1 portal making a jump 5 planets away

Also as none of it really spells it out in a cut and dry no interpretation kind of way. I’m left with only how I read it and then get input from how others read it without actually knowing who if anyone is right

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Pretty sure there is no difference from loading a large or small portal.

The hard part is probably done client side, since server send same chunks info from a small or bigger portals.

I think they did that jsut " to make sense" where bigger portal should cost more shards.

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Yeah but to most new players it’s just confusing and worse

You should just put in a token and it tells you the cost

Yeah that was worded somewhat oddly but I feel he means 1 portal route that makes 5 jumps.

Yeah it’s open for interpretation. It’s funny since I never thought it could be interpreted differently! :slight_smile:

On the other hand it does make sense if you think about it programming wise. They need to load data from the other side, no matter how big the portal is, they need to read the same amount of data.

Right now we prefer to use several smaller portals to get to places than using one bigger one.

But if this is true, then it also means it would be way cheaper if, for instance, Norkyna could be reached from Circapous, hehehehehehe

I actually would love, love, love it if we could reach ANY planet in the main universe (public or sovereign) from ANY other planet.

And if the size really does not matter for the amount of server use I am all for being able to have oort cost be dependent on the distance and not the portal size.

This would mean I can finally realise my dream!

I know I’ve told this before here, but some might have missed it.
Aenea is a character from a book series, in that book series they had portals, some rich person in the book had a home where every door was a portal! Every room in the house was on a different planet!

I would love to recreate that! But for that I would like to reach Norkyna from Trung (or my soon to be here sovereign world) with a portal size that fits my idea of a home…

There’s a movie on Netflix that’s kinda like that. A guy lives in this lighthouse and it connects all the different worlds. He’s like the customs guy. People check in with him passing to other places and check their goods etc.

Ohh, sounds good, what’s the title? Or something to search for it?

Ha! He has a portal hub! :joy:

I wish I remembered the name. Due to the quarantine ive watched wayyyy to many things to keep track of what they were :sweat_smile:

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