ETHICS Question

Honourless, you are mentioning something I do not know about. This “reserves” comment means what? Did I understand you correctly that if I do not build in claimed lands someone can still harvest? Is that what “reserved” means?

P.S. I appreciate the information about townships, merges, linking towns, etc… but all I’m doing is going down into the ground beneath my houses.

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no there is the block u claimed and everything under it and above it is reserved where others can harvest. in claimed lands only u and the permitted people can harvest or change anything. Reserved just means no one else can claim it

The person with the most prestige gets more prestige and control of the name, tell me what they gave up?

What wall are you taking about and pay how? This makes no sense to me.

You are right it is the settlement belonging to the people that built it. They got together as a group and built a settlement. Why should they not get to control the name and not be forced to merge with a player that comes in with a monstrous gleam tower or road purely to try and be the warden of a larger settlement?

Handy for when you need the area, but don’t want to stop regen or restrict others from harvesting. I sometimes claim land just one plot above a resource area so I, and others can still utilize it.

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when you lay down a plot you essentially own an 8x8x8 block area that you can do what you want with and the area will not regenerate. The plots above and below the ones you own are reserved. Other people can harvest resources from them and they will regenerate, but no one (other than you) can claim them (place a beacon on them or plot them).

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when u have so many dedicated people u could make ur own gleam tower or maybe start building with machined or refined metal. U dont like the warden of ur settlement because hes not really involved in ur community… maybe u could change this too.

Tell me what u gave up aside from some vanity stuff like the name of the settlement? no one “forces u to merge”, theres just another settler who is joining ur settlement, entering the competition to be mayor and winning it.

Merges will happen. and sometimes the outcome isnt favored for some time by some of them involved. Build a portal, start settling elsewhere if u really dislike the name of your settlement so much

Keep it on topic please. There’s numerous other threads discussing settlement mergers etc.

This seems fine then. Thank you for the explanation.

That seems fair. Thank you for the explanation.

This made me laugh so much. Cause there is no Competitiveness. Being the mayor of a city has no meaning other than you pick the name of the city. Whats more, you can’t opt out of it, which is the issue.

“but u dont have to participate in this competition u know that?”

You can’t opt out. You can’t cancle, you can’t decline, you can’t refuse. No matter how big, or small your build is. If someone has much more gleam than you, he can take over your town/city by force, without your concent, without fear of punishment, without care that he ruined your hard work, and made the weeks you spent building up a town now completely worthless.

That isn’t very friendly, cooperative, or helpful. Which this community is trying to enforce onto people. That makes you an attacker, a griefer, a toxic player.

Jesus Christ, some people are really so attached to some made up names, of computer game cities. 1st world, and it’s problems :joy:

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It has nothing to do with names. You even quoted the issue and commented on a different thing not even relavent.

The issue is you put all this time, energy, and effort into something. And then someone comes along and makes all that time, energy, and effort meaningless. No matter the situation, or context, that will ALWAYS make people mad.

So tell me, what does exactly makes your town completely worthless? How do you define worth? The only thing that changes when your city gets connected to other is name. Or am I not aware of some game mechanics? How does one make your time, energy and effort meaningless? The only thing I can think that changes, I’m repeating myself, is name. Or is it something else? And if it’s indeed name, how does it make my post not relevant to issue at hand?

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Because someone else takes credit, and depending on how they merge the towns, can be seen as preventing the town from expanding.

It could be a group that doesn’t want to merge, or associate with another nearby town or player.

And when Taxes actually get fixed, it means the creators of those towns no longer get access to the Tax money from Shopstands and Request Baskets of the people living there to support the town.

In fact, if you pretend that Tax system was working as intended and not disabled, where the mayor got all the tax money, then people forcing merges to take over a town and become the mayor to steal all that tax money would probably very quickly fall under Griefing, and exploiting the game system.

The name is a way of saying we did this,. . we created (insert name here) it is the only way in the game to create an identity for all the effort you might put into building. Weeks of grinding and building and all you get is to name it.

By letting someone come in and absorb it, now it has no unique identity but is now part of Bob’s City. This means there is nothing in game to identify the effort and time we spent. It was taken away without any permission or option to not allow it.

As far as calling it a first world problem yes it is in a first world game.

To best of my knowledge, tax was removed deliberately, and the leftovers in UI are just bugs, leftovers from time long gone, that should be removed. Why was it removed… maybe to avoid the reasons you wrote.

It’s the same as saying that the current mayor of my city (RL city) made all the things that make me want to live in it, disregarding all the city history. It’s like saying Hendirix wrote “All Along the Watchtower” just because he played it (and god he played it gooood). Anyone sane, that’s not just plain stupid, understands that a city (in-game one, and IRL) is sum of it’s parts. I’m not dumb enough to think that a nice building/statue/whatever I see was made by current mayor of an in-game city, but at most the owner of the plots it’s standing on (and this also may be not true). So please do me a courtesy and don’t tell me the game is full of idiots.

Well… I’m pretty sure you also get other people to see it, and I doubt they will think that it was created by current settlement owner, but reading this topic I think I give players too much credit…

I understand this is some sort of problems, but some players really do blow it out of proportions, really, really make it much bigger problem than it in my opinion is.



If really all, or at least the main thing, you (players, not anyone particular, but feel free to take it personally) want from this game is that a couple of pixels get to bear a name you choose… then I pity you. It’s really sad.

I really, really may be missing the problem totally, because even as hard as I try I can’t understand it. If my main motivation was to recognize the effort by myself, no city name changing will change that recognition. And if wanted my effort to be recognized by strangers… we’ll strangers don’t give a rat’s ass about me and my effort, and If they do, they wont care about the name, they won’t identify effort with the person who named city, but rather plot owner… but as I wrote, I may give too much credit to the players.



Anyway, when it comes to ethics there is nothing you can force on players, if it’s not enforced by mechanics or CoC. And you shouldn’t. Your freedom ends when another player freedom starts (bounded by game mechanics and CoC). Don’t try to enforce your way of playing, because it won’t work. I have the same right to enforce my way of playing as you do :wink:

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its not ur settlement alone anymore, get over it >.<

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correct your opinion but obviously very important to a lot of people or it would not be creating the fuss it does in the forum.

And now resort to this. . its a shame. .

No I think I will continue to make the point like a lot of other people do.

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Absolute lul at the gleam tower. Sucks it has to be like that.

But ya, screw prestige, I claim anything I might even want to maybe think about considering. I don’t give the leeches a chance to screw me - now… After being screwed and moving to the sticks…