Same 
I did add lower end stuff too but I have to explicitly make them so!
Also depends what you mean with hi end of course.
For me that is 3x3, and 2 boons at level 8+
If you want to only sell max dura/max speed items, then yeah decon resin kinda works, but I can also get those with either boon removal (kinda more luck needed than usual) and also easier with boon transmute. But I do those mainly for special orders only, anything with 1600 dura or more has the same price in my shop…
I forge mostly the same way aenea does. It’s just a differently play style. Every forge is a good forge, certain forges are just better suited to different jobs. There are those who will only buy a specific product though so your ‘high end’ shop definitely has its place. I look at it as a boutique style shop.
For example I just cemented a forge on some sap hammers that dmg 8, 3x3, busy bee 7 and on my last boon application I went from 0 defect to a level 3 durability (-600) defect. I know a ton of people would have deconned that but that’s still 1600 hits (before epic skill and pie) of machine gun mining. I’ll make more back from those 3 hammers than what I ‘lost’ in the durability.
Definitely just different ways of viewing and playing the game.
Yeah I solely sell durability or speed and I forge with quirks, ideally to the beneficial ones, I’m afraid that without the decon resin I could end up making some tools that would be very hazardous to the owners health, haha. And for slingbows, again I only make very select few varieties of and I rely on getting the maximum points into every boon to increase the value of them.
Still as I say I will give it a try. I have about 4 or 5 different forging methods that I use, depending on what I am forging and perhaps I can squeeze the boon removal into some method somehow. I flat out refuse to use boon transmute, my RR feathers are for forging lucient gear alone.
That is exactly what I used when I I did the removal method. I would keep using the removal and getting the wrong boon back. Either the one that was shared on the gum that I had 2 applied or it would it would give me a totally different boon that wasn’t even from the gum I used. I would barely get any of the boons leveled up before i would have to set it and forget it. For example it would be like 3, 4, and 4 for the boons I had if I was lucky and I would run out of vigor (sorry said stability before but I think it was vigor I was running out of) from having to use the removal stuff so much.
I suggested in the last post how they fix it. Either add couple more slots so I can have both deconstruct and removal both. And/or fix it so the gums don’t share the boons. I would rather have more gums added. Or another option would be make it not give me boons for a gum I don’t have applied.
Maybe I am just having terrible luck but forging the last couple of weeks has been a nightmare and nearly ready to drive me away from the game again.
I have multiple methods as well, added a few more with the cheaper gear now as well. I try not to use transmute too often on non-special orders but sometimes I’m lazy 
Absolutely I agree with this. It’s just the way I have marketed myself and it is what my store has become successful for, people know that there will always be high quality tools and weapons available there, but it is definitely not the place to shop if you’re on a tight budget.
And that’s the way I have always regarded boon transmute, it’s a comfort item that comes at a cost both in money and to the quality of the final product. On lucient though it is the only way to forge them right so it’s a must have.
One thing I did notice though is that you recommend Stability 2? Have you tried Protection Paste 2 instead? By my reckoning stability 2 is far more vigor hungry than protection paste, but I could be wrong. I use Stability 1 in my slingbow setup as I have room for a third paste and it allows me to max forge my slingbows except for topaz/amethyst as long as the boon bar slider goes in my favour, but I found stabilization 2 just far too vigor hungry.
Stab 2 has the side benefit of also being able to give stability back when using items that do not use it in the round. Like gums.
When I’m low on stability or better, I can tell I will be low later on, I use it before I add some gums and stability goes up.
Also I’ve just been to your shop as I was curious. Those are indeed some nice forges!
But, some people, like me for instance, can’t stand quirks. I really wish the constant sound and animations on screen would be lessened a bit since that’s what makes them annoying to me.
Therefor my hi end tools have no quirks nor defects and the stats equal yours 
So I’d say it might be worth investivating?
First try on doing that removal method again and had to use 3 removals that really hurt vigor and then it gave me that stupid fragile gear defect. So am just scrapping it. I saw you said you could cancel a queue and get the gear back so at least there is that. I would have wasted the gear in the past.
Fragile gear defect?
What boon compound are you using? Do you also use Fate Paste 2?
I’m not too familiar with all the defect names, is that lower durability?
I can’t stand quirks or defects. I honestly feel like forging is hurting the game. It needs dumbed down. I think runs people off and there are only a handful of people that actually use or like it.
I use my fate paste after I get my boons since I have to vigor cat. off the gums. I use corrupted 1. And that is the second time I have got that defect today. the first time I had fate paste 2 active and it still managed to give it to me even though it was very low on the defect bar. I use skip so I didn’t see the rolls.
As I said before some minor changes I would be OK with, dumbing down would mean I will run off
It can be done, I do it all the time, sure I have some bad runs too now and then, but that doesn’t happen all that often.
Also when I’m tired or my head is just not in the right mindset and I need to forge that is when stuff goes wro g for me, a lot! Then I can cuss a lot too, haha
Use gums, then fate paste 2, then boon compounds… Chances are less hi to get activated quirks or defects when using it.
Edit, missed it, corrupted one
My head was in a good place till I had 2 hours of this BS. LOL
Tip, do two gums, say special, then corrupted 1, if not right boon, removal 1, if no boon at all risk it again with corrupted 1 (only now you will get defect points, not after the first roll). Once you have the first boon, vigour catalyst 2. Then two gums, Effect, Corrupted 1, etc. Once you have the first two. Stability 2, two gums, Fate Paste 2, boon compound…
Yeah I think I see how it works for you, I have a friend who insists on it also. I don’t think it would work with quirks as the draining compound is a little more vigour hungry than the corrupting and it’s a fine balancing point between vigor/stability that would tip too far in the vigor direction.
Yes, that is the side effect of quirks, you do get some minor annoyances and you don’t get any better base forge result from it. But I accept the quirks that come out with essentially “neutral” quirks and deconstruct anything that is truly bad for the user. What you’re missing is the truly high end tools that always sell out fast because they have the bonus 10 action speed or reduced energy cost and of course the day/night T7’s that always clear out as soon as they hit the stands and I get to charge a premium for those ones.
Anyway yeah I only quirk on tools, and purely to have a chance at getting those 3 quirks. Everything else is forged quirk free as they really don’t benefit anything else as heavily as they do hammers. But yes I will try Stabilization in my grapple method, theres definitely room for trying it out there.
Other little tip:
I use both draining and corrupted 1 in same forge…
Between posts I forged this:
Not too shabby I’d say, first roll had magnet…
I had enough vigour and stability left to try to add more point in action speed but had quite a few defect points and ran out of corrupted compounds. Wasn’t my most lucky forge tho!
I was just asking you what you did (deleted that post). And that is how I was doing it. I got the defect on the second gum set I did. It sounds like I am doing it right and just have some seriously bad luck with that method too. Been trying to make a few golden fist today with speed, range and dmg. Been well over 2 hours doing and got nothing. Mostly with the deconstruct method.
As far as the dumbed down I would be happy with it. But they could fix it. remove the defect and quirks would be good place to start. If have to deal with RNG and getting boons I don’t even have applied then don’t need RNG of quirks and defects too.
Are you on PS4? Or can you easily make a video? Would like to see if there’s anything I can spot that could be done differently
