Hunt Etiquette And Portals For Slow Pokes

[MadManMoon]

Oh no! I have been enjoying the hunts, @Bethlehem !

I was just trying to work out the etiquette for portals, is all. I thought the reasoning was a performance one, and was trying to work out what it was, and how I could avoid it, and still portal in to a hunt that’s half-way through.

I’ve tried (literally in every post here) to indicate that any disdain here that I hold is toward my own deficient brain capabilities!

And, as I stress, it’s not a BROWN thing … it’s a “my brain being deficient” thing … BROWN hunts are the ones I like! ( It was a different hunt I didn’t enjoy … )

@Bethlehem

Maybe I’ve not been entirely concise in our hunt rules as it seems you havent understood. Today was the first time since you’ve joined the hunts that I was made aware that you had an issue. I’ll clarify for you as I dont want you feeling confused or not enjoying the hunt because I have failed to explain something properly.

I do state that portals are not permitted, the portals I specifically refer to are the griefing kind, so when the idiots open portals over lava, or to their bases in the middle of regroup in the hopes that you give them footfall.

You may have read me telling players that it is okay to warp to the front, that is why players announce that they are opening “good” portals. Those are absolutely fine because those portals lead to the front of the pack (me) and do not cause disruption to the hunt or trick other players.

I am sorry to learn that you have not enjoyed the hunts. Hope that my answer clarifys anything you have not previously understood.

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You just spoke another language to me, here, @Kokuma … I genuinely can’t make my brain work with economy.

@Kokuma

sure, they do have durability, and the price tag can be a bit steep if you don’t earn lots of money, but remember, opening warps cost 100c each. a decent grapple costs something like 6-7k. that’s 60-70 warps for saving 2-5 durability on a 1.5k-2k durability(or even up to near 4k with durability grapples) grapple of the same cost

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To be fair, I try never to assume anything about anyone … but … yeah, BROWN (and many others) are the kindest of kind! …

@Bethlehem

Also, would like to add that you’ve been a member of our group for quite a while now. You know we give out grapples to those who need them, are worried about breaking them and not being able to replace them etc.

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Actually, I think it was yourself that portal’ed me in to the a hunt on the new sovreign, Valhalla (I think), @kasaisaru .

Can’t believe that regen fucker. Wouldn’t it be great if when someone was put on block in the game literally nothing that their character did could affect you. That would truly knobble these trolls!

I will say, though, that on most hunts I’ve had with most guilds … so many folks go unheard … I think because … if you’ve fallen behind, then even shouting might not be heard … Wouldn’t a ‘hunt chat’ be a great temporary chat thing in-game.

@kasaisaru

I understand your frustration with the portal but we are here to help. If anyone speaks up and states they have an issue keeping up, staying alive, not doing enough damage, etc; Beth or one of the designated assisters will offer up aid so your experience is as pleasant as possible.

As some of the other folks here have mentioned, griefers have been all kinds of rude and opened portals to their home for for fall or just to ruin the experience. Heck just the other day someone was throwing regen bombs while some were solidifying lava to res another player.

I’m tend to only join in once or twice a week due to RL obligations but I have been hanging back and serving as a shuttle on the brown hunts(all aboard the Kas express toot toot). If I need to be your buddy in order for you to enjoy these hunts, well I guess you just got yourself a new friend.

So to you and anyone else feeling this way, we can only help you if you tell us.

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So … I have questions about this, @xyberviri …

1. What’s a “speed hunt”?
2. What’s “pulling 6’s with minimum lag”?
3. What’s “pulling down 3-4’s with lag for most of the night coming and going” ?

Sorry … I’m braindead!

@xyberviri

So ironically we had a first speed hunt on our sov planet, we have had other hunts before this one that were traditional land runs where some one is runs to regions to spawn meteors.

I can say that tonight was the first time we experience hunt lag where people decided to leave.

We have hard larger hunts where the planet had 31 players and were pulling 6’s with minimum lag.

Tonight we had like 16 and were pulling down 3-4’s with lag for most of the night coming and going.

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@Kokuma, cheers, I might do that, mate! I’ve been mostly building, and have one of each machine (but might build more) … and haven’t yet started the wheels of industry, yet … as it’s felt boring. I made a ton of bank in a recent marathon, so I’ve been dining off of that, but it’ll soon be down to nothing … and how you made the same amount of money through just doing stuff has blown my mind!

I’ve been at it for a couple months longer than you, but I’m waaaaaaaaaaaay more rubbish than you at this!

@Kokuma

Also, if you’re worried too much about the cost of the grapple that you’re not using them actively, hit me up ingame, i’ll show you how i earned money.

I’ve been playing since two weeks ago, so i’m also fairly new, but i can say i’ve earned over a million coins in that two weeks of playing (tho i only have around half of that at hand, used a fair chunk in investing for future stuff, like coils. and damn those mint coils are expensive, 20k per)

They may be a bit grindy, but you pretty much don’t need to worry about costs once you know you can always earn more money, it does help in enjoying things without having to think too much about the costs of things you use.

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Thanks all for the awesome responses!

[bregma]

@MadManMoon

I thought the reasoning was a performance one, and was trying to work out what it was, and how I could avoid it, and still portal in to a hunt that’s half-way through.

This is part of the reason.

When a warp opens, the game has to push a lot of bytes of information over the internet to your local computer to describe what’s on the other side of the portal so it can be drawn. If it’s during a hunt, there is already a lot of bytes flowing through the internet to describe where all the other players and mobs are and what they are doing. If you have an unreliable connection to the internet, like mine, opening a portal during a battle can make the game literally unplayable until the battle is over and it’s mop-up time.

That said, it’s only a problem near where the warp is opened. If you’re opening a warp away from the action or from the sanctum it should not cause lag at the battle site. What I can’t tll you is how near “near” is.

[xyberviri]

@MadManMoon

So … I have questions about this, @xyberviri …

1. What’s a “ speed hunt ”?
2. What’s “ pulling 6’s with minimum lag ”?
3. What’s “ pulling down 3-4’s with lag for most of the night coming and going ” ?

Speed hunting is when you use hunt platforms placed on the edge of the region boundary so that you can open a portal to the edge of the place that causes the meteors to spawn.

3-4,6 is the level of the meteor that spawns when you were out hunting.

When level 6 meteors were appearing the whole group was running to each region. but this was a group of 30 players, versus when 15 down to maybe 8 players where still having random lag spikes when opening

I setup 63 regions setup with speed hunt platforms on Valhalla and never had issue with lag when i tested them out solo and with smaller groups of 2-3 players.

[Bethlehem]

Nothing to do with performance - just those damn dirty griefers who flock to our hunt!

[MadManMoon]

OK, cool. What I might start doing is dropping a “current location” co-ord into the Q&A channel during a hunt to keep stragglers up to date and able to catch up.

It’ll save the leader’s friend list from idiots like me and also mean that when late comers, newbies, slow pokes do portal in, they’re on the edge of any potential meteor, or only a hundred or so metres behind the group instead of 1000s.

Could also help with the feeling of not being heard that can happen often (through accidental means, I’m sure).

@bregma

When a warp opens, the game has to push a lot of bytes of information over the internet to your local computer to describe what’s on the other side of the portal so it can be drawn. If it’s during a hunt, there is already a lot of bytes flowing through the internet to describe where all the other players and mobs are and what they are doing. If you have an unreliable connection to the internet, like mine, opening a portal during a battle can make the game literally unplayable until the battle is over and it’s mop-up time.

That said, it’s only a problem near where the warp is opened. If you’re opening a warp away from the action or from the sanctum it should not cause lag at the battle site. What I can’t tll you is how near “near” is.

Hehehe, well, grief is something I had to literally block the other night.

Cheers, @Bethlehem!

@Bethlehem

Nothing to do with performance - just those damn dirty griefers who flock to our hunt!