Deffinetly not, but that doesn’t mean that feminism doesn’t help both sides which means equalism would be better name, I am not saying that you could really change it because to many people are using the other term but equalism fits better what the movement is trying to do.
I would be freakishly afraid to walk down a dark street alone, but that is more like a mild phobia I can hardly walk through my own garden without jumping at every sound.
As @KuroKuma said this is very much something that hits both sides it is an obvious problem but I would say that it hits all genders equally hard.
In a way, yes, but at the same time it really is enforcing a century old preconception that women are to cook and clean, and that they’re not good enough to do anything else. Ideally, children should be able to choose either class, but the sexism lies in the school choosing what they do and classing that by gender (so old fashioned!).
ohhh the classic one. ‘‘gender pay gap’’ then let me come with a video, from a feminist
This is one of my biggest points of annoyance, cause it sucks, there are loads of factors, claiming that it is only gender. is bogus.
let me give an example.
lets say person A earns 100 times more than person B, if you looked at the ‘‘wage gap’’ it would be for every 1 dollar person A makes, person B makes 1 cent, this seems highly unfair right? what if i told you that person B works 5 hours a week in a McDonalds restaurant while person A is a full time brain surgeon, is it still unfair? that is the case with the Wage gap, men are in general more in CEO positions, because they work harder for it, there are lots of facts on it, one of the biggest factors being that around the time men and women can work their way up to that posisition is the time where women are most likely to want to start a family, and as such they back down from work.
Here is an example on how to make the wage gap equal.
‘‘Ben and Annie works at the same place for the same wage, however Ben wants to get him kid jimmy something nice for christmas so he decides to work 7 hours of overtime each weak to earn more money, Annie doesnt want to work, however since we need the wages to be Equal the leader of the company comes and puts a chain around her leg saying ‘‘Ben is working 7 hours more, so you have to work 7 hours more too, even if you dont want to’’’’
Problem is that different jobs pay different amounts of money, women shouldn’t have to be forced to enter engineering, they should be allowed to work as stay at home moms or work in their own businesses. however every choice have consequences, if you want true equality for all jobs, then you need to take away their freedom, is that what you suggest?
I find it more interesting to compare two of the same positions, cause it narrows down the causes, however it cannot completely remove them, there are multiple factors for example some men work more, some men dont have a family so they dedicate more time to work, in terms of getting paid different people have different wages and it have been proven that in general men are more agressive in their wage debates and as such make the company pay them more by taking the initiative to it.
However in the end i am just a straight white male, therefore my opinion is invalid
as Bo Burnham said
PS: remind me never to argue politics again, it gets so yucky. i will keep my political discussions to gaming from now on (as the original intention of the article was)
And they are enforcing that men cannot do that, should not be able to go home and take care of the home and children, while his wife (or or husband) works.
Yup I agree with this
But we just got started
It is still there though, it is just somewhat smaller than people make it up to be.
I think you meant B earns 100 times more than person A. (Or for every 1 dollar B makes A makes 100 dollars and A is the surgeon)
About the whole issue with the gender pay gap. I don’t know enough about it to be honest. The only thing I can say is: If a woman and a man do the exact same thing they should be payed equally. If the man works 1 hour more then it’s his good right to demand more pay and vice versa.
Here’s a link to a TIME article covering a report by the United Nations (Women Earn 24% Less Than Men on Average, U.N. Report Finds)
If you think that’s bogus, then I literally don’t know what to say.
These aren’t opinions, they’re facts. An opinion would be that you don’t think women should be paid equally. They statistical facts state they are not.
It’s a constant source of amazement to me that somehow a subsection of a generation of young, internet generation kids who have had access to the world’s information at their fingertips can be so misinformed.
One thing you’re right about Zouls is that we shouldn’t debate politics here
I agree with you that IF there is a discrepancy between the wages that should be fixed but that link doesn’t show anything. What wages were looked at? What factors were incorporated? Which not? From which countries? (I assume all the UN countries but who knows).
Looking at the linked website doesn’t really help either. At least for me that site is really really badly designed. And the important parts don’t get through.
I might look at it again with more time later but if there is really a wage gap, and I don’t mean an average wage gap because that doesn’t proof anything, then this link doesn’t show that.
As always, never trust any statistic you haven’t faked yourself^^
About payment: A danish (I think it was danish at least) study showed that men in general was better at asking for a raise or promotion because they more often felt they earned it and therefore was much more confident when asking for the raise.
This could be a quite large factor in the difference in how much people earns, this would also mean that the difference is not caused by the employers being sexist or giving more value to mens work but the upbringing that causes women to have less confidence about what they are intitled to have.
(Something in that direction at least at has been some time since I read it)
I’m not hugely well read on the pay gap issue, so I only have my own observations to back me up here. As an employer, men and women handle their compensation very differently. Everybody starting a job may begin at identical salaries, but ultimately men overtake women because they more agressively pursue raises. Now, obviously raises based on merits are typically given indiscriminately, but I’m talking about requested raises. Men will negotiate more often while women are often satisfied with merit raises alone and often don’t agressively pursue additional raises. I attribute this with the “men are the bread winners” mentality, where a larger portion of their income is used to support the rest of the family, where as women’s income is often (not always) less so. As a result, men may net more income, but they also use more of it to support others and have less for personal use than women. I feel that the pay gap is less about sexism against women, and more about the burden to provide on men.
I started reading the link and it hurt my brain… started reading here and… wow. How did that turn into this?
@Zouls your post comparing pictures… is just so not helpful in any way. As far as what female gamers expect of a gaming community, or what our actual concerns are - well you aren’t one and you clearly have no clue. Also - we aren’t just “girl gamers” we tend to each have our own opinions… and this also goes for women in general!
I’m now going to back away slowly (/turn around and run) from this topic, but thanks @ben for that post. It was necessary.
Yesh…good people. I feel like a goosepimple already -_-
Because, WE! - the GoOsePimPleS, will haunt you.
We come in masses…sometimes…not.
A pimple here, a pimple there … pimples! pimples! everywhere!
