Idea Crafting: Full Powered Public Workbenches

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Hi Everyone,

since the new Patch is out i totally hate how grindy the Game went and what a Madness it is to let Newbs Farm for Gems, so that they can Craft the more Advanced Stuff again.
But i think i get it now, normally you start by running of into the wild, build some ugly Workplace into the world, you leave there to rot after just a few hours.
But this is a MMO so why should everyone be forced to build ugly Workstations at first if its possible to form a group and Build Public Stations, so that you get a little Footfall, and the Newbs don’t have to go die for hours but can use the Proper Equipment?
Thats why i’m here with an Idea that i need to test with you Guys, the First and maybe only Collaborative Workspace on Therka:

The Factory - Powercharged

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My Idea is just to add everyone to my Twinks Friendlist, who wants to join, and Give use Rights. I don’t want to lie to you, everything going on there is trust based after that, Just like in a public Washshop, but who knows, maybe we can get our sh** together and don’t steal from each other :stuck_out_tongue:.

We already got 2400 Power on the Workbench, and 24 adv. Compactor Coils are in Production and i will try to get everything slowely Fullpowered, but i won’t say no if someone wants to spare some change :wink: and on booth sides will 4, 2x3 Portals be placed for the first interested Persons to get (But you have to Oort it, i am a Cheapa**), they are free for everyone who Joins, but can also be bought for a greedy fee of 1000C, this way someone on Therka can Grab some Ff off me :wink:

The Rules for the Factory are Self Explaining and Simple I guess:

#1 Don’t steal
#2 Don’t Cancel Jobs that aren’t yours
#3 No Littering (Everything stored in the shelves longer than 24 hours will be seen as Gift :wink: )
#4 Just One Bulk/Mass Job at Once pP pM (I count every Job longer than 10 Minutes as Bulk Job)
#5 Allways Repair after you (Coils will be Repaired by Staff Members :wink: )
#6 Pay the Fees (See Prices List Below)

Payment:

I built this Shopping Area now:

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Its in the Administration Plot so the Contributors can’t Steal from the Stands, behind the Signs is the locked Entrance to the Coil-Cellar.
I sell Stone and Iron Spanners for 33/150 Coins, for the Contributors to buy and Repair the Benches/Spark Gen (But they can also bring their own, i don’t care :stuck_out_tongue: )
The Coal i sell there is my Currency Solution. Prices go as follows:

Prices:

Spark: For Every 100/250 Points Spark needed in the Recipe, buy 1 Soft/medium Coal and Throw it in the Generator.

Power: For Every 100/250 Points Power needed in the Recipe, buy 1Soft/medium Coal and Throw it back into the Request Basket.

And allways Repair the Benches/Generator after you!

And last but not least lets try this with a 3 Strike System for Violations of every Rule except 3, so if we got 3 Strikes, this Project stops instantly, everyone will be thrown out, and I will steal everything to Sell it and buy Materials to Build a Statue of Shame for Everyone to see.

So, what do you Guys think?

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The only issue I have is that once this thing is established and churning away it will forever change the bell curve of progression for the mass new player populous. So if we experience a surge, everyone essentially gets a cheat code that makes them equivalent to a level 30 say. I am one of these earn it yourself, hard work should be rewarded kind of folks. I simply offer that I am missing why we need to accelerate the learning curve in the first place. As I have stated before, the grind is the experience, if it feels tedious then people might just be missing the serenity and beauty.

But maybe don’t listen to me, I am the guy that played Witcher 3 no hud on death March for over 3000 hours.

Funny. My favorite games of all time are all super grindy, see ffxi and ffxiv.

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I know what you mean, as Example i really like that feeling of solace thet you get while Mining Diamond in Andoweem. But i don’t want to see the more Casual Player leaving the game, cause they don’t like it, i just want to open another Path for them.
And the Cheatcode Problem you mentioned is small i think, if someone uses a Machine its blocked for some time, so the others have to wait. And no i don’t want to extend the Factory again at this time xD.

But yeah if it gets out of hand i will stop instantly its just PoC

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Sounds like a solid case my man.

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Allright, that really is nice to hear :slight_smile:.

For everyone who wants to Join, you can meet me ingame most of the Time in our Village, “The Forgotten Kingdom of Cog” that you can access via “Moebius Plaza” -> “Mines off Bloria”, our Outposts on every Ringworld or the Portal Seekers Therka Hub - Player Portal “Mines of Bloria”

Look for George or Raziels01

Or you can do it the Cool new School way via discord (https://discord.gg/74Dv3k7)

The Rules for the Factory are Self Explaining and Simple I guess:

#1 Don’t steal
#2 Don’t Cancel Jobs that aren’t yours
#3 No Littering (Everything stored in the shelves longer than 24 hours will be seen as Gift :wink: )
#4 Just One Bulk/Mass Job at Once pP pM (I count every Job longer than 10 Minutes as Bulk Job)
#5 Allways Repair after you (Coils will be Repaired by Staff Members :wink: )

And last but not least lets try this with a 3 Strike System for Violation of Rule 1,2 and 4, so if we got 3 Strikes, this Project stops instantly, everyone will be thrown out, and I will steal everything to Sell it and buy Materials to Build a Statue of Shame for Everyone to see.

I hope thats Cool :stuck_out_tongue:

Raz out “drops mic”

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Hey solid plan! Beauty of it is it still requires the user to at least have the skill points and materials to craft things, even if they don’t have the equipment.

That being said, I feel you should charge a membership fee for the simple fact that footfall alone won’t cover your overhead costs of machine/coil wear and spark used. Your engines especially will have high overhead as it requires color specific spanners to maintain the coils. I strongly advise against allowing users to self repair coils because that would require access to the coils which could potentially leave them open to the energy beam- and potential death/grief scenarios.

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Thank you for your kind words :slight_smile: and pointing that out.

You are right with the Coils, but that should be easily fixed altering the Plots a little :). Someone could run arround Pk everyone afk waiting for their Jobs, that would be real bad.
And yeah, i should charge like a Job fee, that goes up if Spark is used OR Power needed, but i don’t have a clue how much that should be and how to collect the coins…

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Great idea… I might just steal that idea for Ynys Affallon. :heart_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Ohh sh**t economy hit me fast xD… Im totally cool with anyone stealing my idea, Competition Baby :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t know if thats the path that leads us to total destruction of Itembalance, but we could corporate if you want :wink:

I think i have a Solution for the Payment Problem already too, but more of that tomorrow, its late and i have to sleep :stuck_out_tongue:

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Eh… as far as I am concerned… we are on different planets so there is no competition. Besides the only pple that can use the machines at my town will be mostly my trusted townsfolk, which is not many at the moment. And, I was already building a community space and a community warehouse with machines (planned). Your idea kinda just work into it nicely. I even have a community message board up (copied this idea from mobius, I’ve had the community warehouse sharing thing since I started Tjentzu, and I think I was the first to do it at that time.)

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xDD I stole the discord Channel idea from moebs too.

You are right, hadn’t thought about the distance Problem, but maybe if our Planets get nearer in the Future, i will open a Portal too steal some of your Crafters from you to get Ff :stuck_out_tongue:

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I argue against this. Creating larger distances and making it more difficult to get from a planet to the next will arguably be better for the game.

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I think you may have overlooked those who don’t understand English players.

They will absolutely ignore all rules you wrote on the sign and carry away everything.

– And then your goes bankrupt

Donot. trust me.

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you forgot that only those who have permission can use the machines :wink:

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Definitely gonna come give you some ff. Do you get coin from people with permissions though?

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This is a really interesting idea. No idea if the devs thought of something like this happening or not, and technically it’s probably bad for me (as scarcity of access to make high-level stuff is better for those who already have it…) - but it’s what I think this game is great at: unexpected ideas coming from real people, and not NPC-led structure.

Will be very interested to see how this goes, and in a player-driven economy, we will all have to adapt if it proves popular :wink:

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Hi Everyone,
after sleeping over everything i think i have some Solutions for the Problems that now start to show :stuck_out_tongue:

@slyduda Yeah you could be right, therefore i won’t push expansion anymore, i will have to make some field studies first, i was just too excited xD. Aaaand i’m really happy that you found to this thread cause i think we could do some business if you want :stuck_out_tongue:. Someone has support me with an maybe steady amount of spanners :wink: .

@Flithor you could be right :slight_smile: as German myself and considering my people, i am planning translations in German, French, Russian at first, and may expand it over time. But i also try to make it Foolproove so that the griefier minded don’t get tempted :stuck_out_tongue:

@Prome3us Thanks man, i love to hear that :slight_smile: . I started to make an “Administration Area” thats Part of Another Plot, to throw the Crafters out of my Cellar (Where the Coils are) and Sell Coal, a little overpriced, as currency for the Powered Crafts :wink: (More explanation later :wink: )

@philelliott Thank you for your nice Words :slight_smile: . If the Devs got a Problem with my Plan, they may now talk or be silent forever xDD
and considering your economic Problem, if i need something, the Grump Store is one of the first stops on my Tour, so it maybe could boost your income instead :slight_smile: ECONOMY YEAH

I will Build now the Missing Parts of my Administration Area and Edit the First Post to Merge aaall the Information together, after that.

Lets see how that will come out xD

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Us punks were hanging out by your place last night and you chase us out with a broom :rofl:

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I just wanted to say hi xDD. Isn’t hitting the Ground with your Totem the Oortian way of asking “Are you Living here” ? xD

Edit: Yikes you meant knight… I DIDN’T HIT NOBODY cough

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