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I do find it amusing that people come on here and say âConcrete is a basic building thing so should not be mid/high tierâ
To make concrete you need to gather limestone, break it up, heat it at high temperatures in your kiln and wait for it to break down, then you let it cool (careful of the harmful gasses released!). Mix the Quicklime with Water (careful of the reaction!) and then you mix in gravel.
Man, that sounds like a real pain. I donât have a Kiln IRLâŚand making all that would be really time consuming.
So I will just go buy some at a store.
^ the exact process as Boundless. âMan, I donât want to grow kindling shreds to make ConcreteâŚthat sounds like a lot of workâŚIâll just go buy itâ
Seems like they made it exactly like IRL 
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Itâs is a little weird to require kindling shred for the recipe, but for 1 mass craft it only needs 9 pieces.
1 mass craft of concrete/9 kindling shreds = 50 blocks (thatâs not bad)
Been making mass crafts, and I donât even have an amazing kindling farm lol (itâs like 100 kindling, and still working on it)
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Ainât nobody gonna be making concrete until they reached level 50, have multiple alts (because skill tree), have fully power coiled machines (probably), and money to burn for exo trips. But i would imagine 98% of current players have reached these milestones so maybe itâs nothing.
I just dislike walls⌠the gem wall, and now the exo wall, etc; I would prefer the drop to come from a normal planet or something⌠I donât like the idea of future basic recipes being all tied to exo drops. Blink/Rift/Quark whatever, sure - thatâs understandable.
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Kinda reminds me of when one day they said, âOK now deco blocks require wax for no reason whatsoever.â
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I think the main reason is the devs want every item to have some sort of value, which is fair. Combustion particle was added to the recipe to break down rock to gravel to sand. Itâs just strange that concrete would require exo ingredients when we (I) see exos to be like these alien planets we use to find special items/colors. Rift, blink, darkmatter are special so that makes sense. Petrol and resin are viewed as limited resources so those being on an exo makes sense.
But concrete is something that just seems regular. Maybe if kindling shred wasnât exo specific people wouldnât be so against it as it would just be another resource we could gather at our leisure. People can say IRL concrete is special all they want, but limestone comes from sedimentary rock from what I can see. And our characters are advanced enough that we can craft gem tools, machines, doors, etc so the mixing process seems trivial in comparison.
Regardless of how easy it may be for me or other advanced players to gather kindling shred, I think itâs just another false barrier that turns people off who havenât gotten to that point in the game. Thatâs my main reason for being against kindling shred being a requirement for a âbasicâ block.
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I donât believe concrete is pointless as it gives us another block to build with.
I do believe a simpler recipe would be more appropriate and the prestige adjusted as necessary. This would happen sooner rather than later if it was up to me.
My suggestion for a recipe would be water, sand, and gravel. Maybe some glue if there must be a âbondingâ agent.
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Maybe weâll get a few permenant T7s eventuallyâŚ?
Wax was really hard to get early on for those without forged gear and builds that could access high level planets.
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i find the key is to always look at it form a new player pointâŚthey are going to see all that and prob just write off concrete all together cuz of it just not being worth it
tbh that was the first nail in my âleavingâ coffin has it killed my main build (at the time farming wax for a single max craft took over a hour)
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Yeah back then I just quit using deco blocks altogether over wax of all things. Stack of 900 wax yams took me a week of play to get from plant drops.
I probably wouldnât have known the difference if wax had been required from Day 1 though.
So the question becomes - was this ingredient added to the recipe because it âmakes sense,â or did we just look at the list of stuff that isnât being used and randomly add it to this recipe?
From a new player perspective, how viable does it seem to have entire builds made out of decorative gems and lucents?
I feel like people are misinterpreting the fact that concrete has a plain texture to mean that is should be a basic / easily accessible block.
I stand by my opinion that the plain texture is very much desirable in many applications, and from that point alone Iâm happy with it being a âlater gameâ item. People wanting it to be easily attainable is irrelevant at the moment, as it wasnât deployed as such by the devs.
To the low seed return; seed is only relevant until youâve filled up your allocated farm space; and as pointed out hunting wild kindling is really the way to go if you want to rapidly fill your allocated farm space
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just rename concrete to âSuper fancy magic smooth blockâ. problem solved.
and before you can craft super fancy magic things, just use sand that looks nearly identical.
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Looks like orientation is the same north & west for the pattern; how about up & down? If so, it should make building w/ them simpler
Change the name to Oortcrete. Problem solved, it isnât concrete anymore.
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Yeah, itâs like marble, doesnât matter how you lay it down
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Reminds me of when we have boneless pork chops for dinner and I have to tell my son itâs âchickenâ or he wonât eat 
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It seems like the latter where you mentioned it was added to the concrete recipe because kindling shreds arenât used in many other recipes.
Having multiple uses for an item is great but it should make sense at the end of the day.
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Change the name to Crety McCrete Face so that people will stop complaining that fictional concrete isnât easy like IRL concrete is perceived to be.
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Strongly against those Bonding Agent recipes?
Have no idea why since Bonding Agent is a lot easier to get than Kindling in reliable quantities.
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Well on the bright side, I think this is going to be something like the Exo Earthyam âcrisisâ after the farming release.
One week after the farming release there were people calling it a crisis, asking for new planets, temp spawns, etc âŚ
4 - 6 weeks after the release we got people posting to threads about how cooking the yams and minting them was the best way to make money with them.
The current recipe for concrete is sand, water, and a farmable plant. I sold the seeds that I had prior to the release but if people are really unable to come up with 2400c, survive a t5 planet, or whatever to go there Iâll probably gather more, as will @bucfanpaka and some others.
In the short term it looks like a giant pain but in fact, thereâs no requirement to ever leave level 1 to start producing your own concrete. Kindling shred production will ramp up to meet or, more likely, exceed demand.
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