Is the Iron Fist obsolete?

I just started forging some gold fists under the direction of @Tonezone and I realized that the flexibility on a forger skill page makes iron and gold fists the same difficulty to forge. In my opinion gold fists are much better in terms of doing damage.

I know that Iron fists are cheaper to craft, but I feel like that and a small amount of extra durability are all they have going for them.

EDIT: I backed at the explorer level which allowed me to craft these and ever since the backing came out for the gold fists which I also am able to craft, the iron fists seem obsolete as a backing reward and I feel that all players should be able to craft these.

Yes, iron fists are inferior to gold gists. But only the deluxe package holders can make Gold fists.

But there is plenty of those around.

At least with Wayfarer totems, the holder can queue them in your personal machine if you have the mats. I would assume the same for fists…

Ima pray the great Oortarch doesn’t curse my forging luck for pointing this out…

That is very interesting.

I think the only advantage is durability.
I usually sell my explorer fist at half the price the golden ones and I personally use more the explorer ones since I got them as a reward for baking lol.

I have suggested that gem fist are split in 2 categories, where 3 gems require explorer fists as base material to make it more useful in the market but seems like a lot of people feel like higher tier fists can break the game for being too OP.

I feel like our reward for the explorer tier lost its uniqueness thanks to the Golden fist being available pretty much by everyone via steam :disappointed:

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This is a misnomer because the dmg from a fist maxes out somewhere around 20k. This is something like 20%(or less) than the max dmg a slingbow can inflict. Slingbows are actually too OP for the creatures we currently have.

Fists are also slower, have a shorter range, can’t have augments, and can’t have AOE. (It would be great if AOE was removed from the possible boons on fists since it does nothing).

A lot of players love using the fist - adding gem fists would be great imo. Since the current ones both require some sort of upgrade, I think it’s fine if one gem fist ingredient is an iron or gold fist.

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I may be an aberration but I still rock the iron fist. For someone that doesn’t do high level meteors and rarely fights creatures on anything above a t4 planet the gold fist is just overkill.

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Yep like gold fist can get really high on damage but you need to sacrifice speed, and durability.
Same with bows you can get crazy high damage but you will fire to your toes or very slowly.
I’m going to post about the AOE fists on the recent testing and see if I can get some attention to it lol

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Dmg on gold fists maxes out at like 20% of what you can get on a slingbow, even with just dmg + crit/crit.

(Maybe they didn’t remove the AOE on fists bc they plan to allow AOE on them for real :star_struck: )

I guess that I just wish that everyone could craft them. It would be a great option for new players to have. It just feels like the point of having them as a reward anymore is mute. I can understand the gold fists as a reward, but not the iron ones.

Oh, yes please, I can only hope so. I can see some instances where it might be useful.

Noooooo!

My Gold “Fists of Doom” do the most damage in-game…

I don’t make them much anymore, but they sure do some damage

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Yes, I have someone that forges them exactly like that for me. I can get hits that give well over 15k dmg, but slingbows can do tens/hundreds of thousands in dmg.

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Oh not sure if aoe can be useful but If we can get 9 fists coming out from a single click…


It would look sick lol

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But the only reason for this is that gold has the best critical base values right? Gold bow can get pretty damn strong too lol

hm maybe cuase iron fist kinda lame backer gift they should give it to everyone
and then give early backers the burning fist

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oooh a fist with flames…yaasss :fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:

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The iron fist isn’t even backer exclusive as first advertised, I think it’s unlocked with the deluxe edition as well.

If that’s true then it’s even more disappointing lol

We need elemental fists lol

Fire would be awesome :smiley:

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Haven’t heard anything concrete recently, here’s some talk about it from a while back.

If durability is better on iron, I would think they would be superior to gold if being used as a loot/armor fist… (which I is what I use fists for.) …the armor is what consumes the durability.

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