One thing I’ve always been curious on is the use of auto clickers to shoot a sling-bow as fast as having the rapid fire epic, but without having to spend the 5 skill points.
Would this be considered an exploit?
Yeah I think there’s a lot of hardware that can do this. You wouldn’t have to even run an app or write/record a macro.
I think in some places it’s considered offensive, and in others it’s considered fundamental.
The trunk farm I posted about is very optimal for this sort of thing, and it wouldn’t affect my skill selection. But clicking exactly, reliably 15 times in succession could add a few percent to my desired output.
Common convenience tool meet “game-destroying exploit”? Or just de facto, another available option?
I don’t honestly care to favor either side of this. If it’s clearly acceptable, I’ll be doing it.
Wouldn’t the fire rate be constrained by the skill level?
Only if the rapid fire epic exceeds the weapon’s available action speed.
@Elsiekelsie Yes, but the only function of the rapid fire epic is that you can hold down the mouse button and shoot continuously. It doesn’t make you shoot faster. At least in my tests sub-20 it looked like that.
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I have tried to get a dev response to this in the past but to no success.
Thanks for the history.
It sort of looks like what you would expect with regards to community standards but if there’s no clear policy on the matter I won’t be logging thousands of identical to the millisecond clicks on my account, either.
Things can suddenly swing pretty far and I’d hate to be in an account sweep or similar.
I have used auto hot key to help level toons via the stone method.
I used it to level several toons though I actually rarely use them and was all a bit of a waste of time… I think I just wanted the full number of toons availabe to satisfy my completist.
my 3 main toons were leveled the traditional way.
using ahk saved me from getting a rsi, as the game doesn’t provide a way to mass craft multiple times without a lot of key mashing.
Haven’t and wouldn’t see the need to use ahk in any other part of the boundless gameplay.
My main main toon gets all xp from mining, cratfing the metals etc and building without the aid of ahk.
Nothing, wrong, in my eyes, in using such a system as long it does affect others gameplay.
Have used ahk and macros in mmo’s where there were actively encouraged, Wow being the main example (dual boxing and such).
I’d like to hear an official stance from the devs as well. I was checking the EULA and CoC, since I know usually terms of service include mentions like “automated access to the services” and “unauthorized scripts”, but for Boundless the only thing I could find is under 2. Restrictions:
- Restrictions
You are not entitled to and must not:
[…]
- create data or executable programs which mimic data or functionality in the Game except in the case of Permitted Modding;
Scripts mimic the game’s functionality of user input. Essentially this should mean that it’s only OK if the devs explicitly say it’s OK. Which could be why they haven’t given an official OK yet, scripts are a touchy subject.
Until then it’s safest to avoid them, but I highly doubt that quality of life “anti-RSI” scripts like pressing the mass craft button 30 times would get you in trouble.
Don’t take my word for it though.
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I have a script that I trigger when looking at an inactive portal, it asks for a portal token name, and then proceeds to making a token and taking it to my inventory, then another one I trigger when aiming at a shop stand and it places the token in to it and sets the price to 0.
And another one that I used to name multiple signs with an increasing counter.
It’s just a convenience and qol for me so I don’t have to repeat the same action again and again.
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I feel this would save me hundreds or thousands of mouse clicks and hours of holding down the mouse button straining my wrist and arm used to automate a process which doesn’t currently require my avatar to move or change direction in any way.
Incidentally though it would increase my efficiency (i.e.desirable loot per tool) by something like 5% just to use it.
Somewhere there’s a blurry line between quality of life and unfair advantage.
With no clear policy I would still prefer not to use this (any hardware or software aid) on my paying account.
I should clarify that I don’t see any other use for me, but can totally understand others will in clever and inventive ways. 
Ran a mini army of shamen alts in wow, using some program that I now forget the name of (getting old…) and played with an xbox controller…felt quite an achievement at the time
Completely agree
I’ve brought up the macro topic before and at the time consensus of the community was it’s something that shouldn’t be done. But never got any dev response. Just people saying I should report the players I see using it.
To me using an outside program to make your character do anything without you being there is kind of an exploit/hack. But again that’s just my opinion. Plus this is only something pc users can do. Which gives a significant advantage to them over ps4. Which also makes it a touchy spot.
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Defintely against that kind of bot behaviour as I think 99.9% of people will also be.
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This is basically my knee jerk reaction as well, these tools are rarely welcome.
I wouldn’t have thought to ask if I hadn’t seen this being freely posted on the forum today.
Issue too in that case is determining who is using a macro or auto clicker.
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Someone breaking and planing a flower for exp over and over again with no response > Likely a bot
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Someone shooting really fast > Who knows if it’s an auto clicker or the skill epic
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Someone mass crafting with an auto clicker > Noone else is likely going to even be nearby, let alone notice it
Makes also harder to macro one of the plotter related feats, that can be done as new player to earn coins and xp.
What about if it is hardware, like for example Arduino device that imitates mouse lmb or keyboard space hitting boundless button to do the job? Isn’t this possible to do on PS4 version?
I’m sorry I’m laughing so hard right now.
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you’re laughing but that’s what we used in Ultimate Online before they developed UOLoop.
Meanwhile there was an Origin sponsored software program called UOAssist that let us use macros to fire off spell combos and melee combos and a whole host of other things. At the same time the 90s were not quite the Wild West but certainly wary pioneer days as far as game development was concerned. Everquest took a far different stance than UO did with software aids. UO was also a far more complex game in terms of game actions required. UOA made UO much more complete.