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Have a merry christmas. Happy hanukkah

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Edited because ā€¦apparently,
attaching a spark link to another personā€™s nearby machines and using their power is allowed.

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The next patch mentioned raising the prestige needed to get footfall from 5k to 10k, not sure if that will really deter ppl or just cause them to spend 15 minutes chiseling brick. 10k is pretty high thoughā€¦ even with the worst intentions at that point you might just consider plopping down something aesthetically pleasing and of value, even if the intent is really to capture footfall.

Spark theft can happen if you have a generator or link at the edge of your beacon. I think itā€™s by design because neighbors, guilds, or settlements could create a community power grid if they wished. To opt out just make sure to leave a 1 block buffer in your build so no one can reach your spark grid. Exposing your grid at the top or bottom is worse than the sides because only the original plot owner can fix it. If itā€™s exposed on the sides any neighborly individual could buy the plot to protect the grid.

In both cases the devs donā€™t seem interested in adjudicating questions of intent so it will be up to the community to educate each other on defensive measures like buffer plotting and spark safety. I agree with the devsā€™ decision but only from a resource allocation perspective. Theyā€™re a small team with a lot they have to get to and they already have their developers doing community management and customer support which takes time away from the people who could otherwise be developing new features. Hopefully one day they can get stable enough to pay someone to worry about ToS nuance, but I also think players adopting a more wolves vs sheeps mentality would go a long way toward reducing these issues.

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Actually this isnā€™t an exploit. The devs wanted a way for someone to share spark with others. Thatā€™s a way to do it without actually giving beacon permissions to use your machines directly.

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If it is a tool inside a plot that is intended to have share usage, then it should be fully permissionableā€¦ like machines, even if it is by beacon. Joe schon should not be able to plop down and steal spark

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HAHAHAHHA!!! This is the most fun Iā€™ve had reading forums online since i read Trump post!
FYI this beacon was used as a portal map location (as did all my beacon before I understood that you could teleport to your sweetspots (PS,MINE,TRADERS, ETC) straight from the location list).
I have to admit that the onr floating in the air was tricky to build since I had to lay a floor and took me some time to realize that you could lay down a floor in the middle of nowhere. Kinda proud of that one.
And the part that really made me wet my pants was the one, and I quote "ā€œI also just caught him collecting the coinā€ You made my day there fella. As I just picked up that these little pesty flamy bbq also did collect crappy coins from who knows what.
And those aroubd PS Hub were from when there was a reward for beacons In huge city.
Thanks pal for the help and next time before launching a virtual crusade in the name of you almighty versus the noobs of boundless try sharing that knowledge and understand why that beacon is thereā€¦
Sincerely yours
Kukrapok, lord of newbies

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Or just hide your machines inside your walls like it was probly intended

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Thats the wayā€¦its a game. And if people leave plots spare whats wrong with people landing there. The game promotes it. Join a settlement i think its called. People stop crying .and lets be honest, who puts their spark on the edge unless they want to share. Thats really such a waste of time talking about.i am with danyka i think reading this was funny.bunch of 12 year olds arguing other a lollipopā€¦lol

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Everybody just build cool and useful things, thatā€™s what this game is about! Iā€™ve claimed a lot of ugly plots as they expired during the last month.

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This is not a support thread, and has been moved to the general category. Support is for reporting and resolving bugs and account issues only.

Additionally, do not name and shame. This leads to witch hunts and self proclaimed private investigators who ruin other players reputations without having any clue to the actual truth in many cases. Use the report function in game if you believe another player is violating CoC.

Lastly, ā€œleachingā€ is not a violation of CoC. If you donā€™t like that someone has a plot in a particular place, politely talk with them, but understand that they have every right to be there. Itā€™s possible they donā€™t know they can save a location, or want to build something in the future, but havenā€™t yet. And theyā€™re not ā€œleachingā€ anything from you- their generated income does not reduce your own one bit, and only stimulates the economy of your own settlement.

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With the current changes in testing it will invalidate coin catcher only beacons, unless they drop 10k of prestige on itā€¦ so at least theyā€™ll count towards your settlement :hugs:

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Itā€™s the responsibility of the person who put that plot down, started building there, and then left themselves open to this kind of grieving (if you can call it grieving at all) to correct the mistake. Not a lot of people in this game even know about how you can share spark between different owned plots.

If you donā€™t want someone using your spark, then donā€™t put your machines right at the edge of your plot thatā€™s next to one that isnā€™t claimed or donā€™t do that with your Spark Cores. Thereā€™s actual good design reasons behind why itā€™s allowed and thatā€™s mostly around how players have grouped together, built cities, etc. and how guilds are a thing. Perhaps a guild city will have a centralized location where players can all pitch in to a single Spark Core generator for the machines and run Spark Cord off it to their own place. Spark Substations for a power grid system in a city could be a thing and results in using this mechanic.

The thing is a random player canā€™t steal your spark if itā€™s not accessible at the edge of your plot. If thereā€™s no connection to be made, there can be no spark theft.

I honestly think itā€™s an extremely under utilized game mechanic.

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Except if you read the original post it is not about machines. Besides the fact that machines are not useable to people without permission to your plot. My response was relating the spark lines (what the post is actually about) to machinesā€¦ stating that like machines are permissionable (with a beacon permission), spark likes should be as wellā€¦ because they serve similar purposes.

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I agree that it should be possible to share spark. But as I said a couple times nowā€¦ this whole exploit (yeah it is stealing so it is closer to an exploit than griefing) could be easily solved by requiring the same permission as nachinesā€¦ since in reality a machine creates the spark being stolenā€¦ spook I donā€™t think the proposition of permission it is that big of a stretchā€¦ But I do think that saying ā€˜it is your responsibility to make sure nobody exploits your plots using a design flawā€™ is a very valuable response to the OP, or the community.

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I can say that the option of having additional permissions would be nice as thatā€™s something that has been brought up more than once: more beacon permissions.

Thereā€™s still plenty of creative ways to use the current existing spark mechanics without opening yourself up to a lot of risk in giving someone permissions to use your spark. Giving them permissions now with current beacon mechanics would basically create a lot of liability for you to worry about. Simply not worth it.

So how it is now is intended. It isnā€™t an exploit. Iā€™d have to dig it up on the forums but the developer James has even said it isnā€™t an exploit and that it was an intended design of how Spark Cords work. Also, I never said it was a design flaw either cause it isnā€™t.

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The post was actually about me ā€œā€œleechingā€ā€ your unconsciously. My name and screenshot was erased by admin

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It was not mine. It was The Opā€™s. And like I said, it was not about the machinesā€¦ it was about spark being stolen. So you are still off

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I understand that is how it is. Iā€™m simply saying the it could be managed better by a seemingly simple permission addition. We could even use the same permissions and add this under what the builder permission allows

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Naming and Shaming people is against the Terms of Service. This whole thread is pointless.

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Either I can see the first post of the thread not beong the guy shaming me or you made this thread about spark while it was being about leeches who sits a single throne on a huge base to collect footfallā€¦ Either way your points good I just cant see where it was called for in the thread name :wink:
Anyway share some love :slight_smile: