POLL: Is boundless heading in the right direction?

[CreativeWorlds]

You think this is scam?

[Merln]

I think it is reasonable for one to raise the question of whether what they did is unethical practice and possibly a scam

[Timidx3]

I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s a scam. But it doesn’t look good. With the information about bombs missing from the patch notes to begin with, it just seems a little fishy. That’s a large change to forget. People were led to believe that bomb mining was going to get a buff, with the additional durability. They bought bombs, maybe specced into bombs to finally give it a shot now that they will last longer, people had their gems and coils listed in their shops, not knowing the changes that were coming because someone forgot to add it into the patch notes. People weren’t given a fair chance here to make the right decisions. And now their play style is dead. And some have to spend real money to fix the characters they put so much time into. And it’s definitely not right, that’s for sure.

[shap3d]

there are ton of ways to make coin
lack of coin is no excuse
and that’s the reason beyond these changes
encourage player driven economy
you work X hours, sell your stuff, earn coin
buy stuff you want

[Peyago]

You are still spending more travel time per item, and since everything in the game is easily farmable, all that was added here is a timesink.

[Arkhainn]

@Timidx3

With the information about bombs missing from the patch notes to begin with, it just seems a little fishy.

It wasn’t missing from the patch notes.
Apparently they edited the post, as originally the change to block destruction was below the increased durability (you can click the edit history if you’re curious and go back to the very first version, and it was already there).

@Steggs101

• Bombs will now destroy resources at the same speed as they would destroy rocks, this means higher tier resources will not be left floating in mid-air when using bombs to mine.
• Doubled the durability of Bomb Bags! (to reduce the cost for bomb mining and make bombs more cost effective in combat)

[Merln]

It was updated with the bomb destruction information 5 hrs prior to the update by stretchious.

[Huckleberry]

Patching in changes is a scam now? The level of hyperbole makes it really hard to take some of you seriously.

[Peyago]

So it was missing for hours. Both times I read the post it didn’t state the damage change. I wasted a bunch of forge mats making max aoe bombs for myself and my guildies to play with. Now they can sit there on my storage shelves.

[Timidx3]

I’ll just let you go double check that.

[wade44423]

The huge change like that need to announce earlier.
If they remove hammer after 5 hours, and tell you that you need to use axe to mine in the future.
It make sense to you ?

[Huckleberry]

No, that did not at all.

[Merln]

The stream of logic is this: update significantly changed game play, this required people to make skill set change as the previous build was rendered useless, the easiest way to do this is to buy a skill change set. The definition of a scam (posted above) is using deception to benefit the company. I said it was reasonable for one to raise the question of this being a scam. It had minimal effect on me, but I think for new people it could feel that way.

[Arkhainn]

@Timidx3

I’ll just let you go double check that.

First edit, not first version. So it was missing a couple hours. Still there before the patch hit.

@Timidx3

With the information about bombs missing from the patch notes to begin with, it just seems a little fishy.

Making this statement is too much of a stretch.

Edited to better conform to @Merln expectations.

[Merln]

your quote there is entirely inaccurate. In fact somewhat laughable. Nobody said that it was “a scam because it was missing from the patch notes.” And making an edit like that 5-hrs before update after people had already seen and made plans off of the original, is unacceptable practice.

The reason for the scam comments is completely different. Review the discussion chat.

[Kal-El]

looks like you did not read what I said here let me help you

@Kal-El

So the person with the secluded build does not have the option to buy unless they also sell and has to gather at least something to sell if not the ingredients to make the item themselves.

So was not making an excuse. . I clearly said they have to sell to buy.

@shap3d

there are ton of ways to make coin

You sell, you get footfall, the measly 100 coin per week for playing is not going to let anyone buy a power coil for over 30K so there are two ways to make coin.

@shap3d

and that’s the reason beyond these changes
encourage player driven economy

That is an assumption on your part with no clear statement from the developers.

@Tobelawe

Some recipes have received additional ingredients e.i. bricks and decorative blocks. In the case of bricks it is my thinking that they should now be easier to craft in general. “Easy” can be interpreted in many different ways but the raw resources need to create bricks should be less. The counter to this is that you need more varied resources which means you need to travel to find them. All in all I hope these two factor balance out so that bricks have a similar “difficulty” level to the pre-patch recipe. In my defence of decorative blocks I would say that each progression of base wood (timber->refined->decorative) is a little boring, you just need time and some fuel (what you need for pretty much any recipe). The aim was to make them a little more interesting in a thematic way without overly increasing their cost. We also wanted to give the waxy earthyams some value. Hopefully there is a healthy demand for them now.

The economy is not mentioned

[CreativeWorlds]

Steggs said on discord he had no idea why bombs were buffed, so I’m thinkin that conspiracy needs to go away.

He updated the patch notes 5 hours before.

What could they possibly have to gain by misleadin’ people about the bomb nerf?

[Arkhainn]

@Merln

your quote there is entirely inaccurate. In fact somewhat laughable. Nobody said that it was “a scam because it was missing from the patch notes.” And making an edit like that 5-hrs before update after people had already seen and made plans off of the original, is unacceptable practice.

The reason for the scam comments is completely different. Review the discussion chat.

I’ll concede that, edited the reply.

[CreativeWorlds]

I doubt they gonna wanna post patch notes in the future.

[shap3d]

it’s impiclit
recipe changes were aimed to requiere different profession materials
now builders have to either buy the materials or make alts

I made like 10k yesteday only selling cotton
and I bought 5 powercoils since release
again lack of coin is no excuse