the way i see it, when fighting a titan it shouldn’t matter how long it will take, you are either in, or your not, you aim for the acomplishment.
oh and to add to things about titans the loot should automatically be divided by who does the most damage, so the guy with most damage will get more gold xp etc (the one who was there for 5 hours) rather than the guy who came for 10 mins who will get less since he has done hardly anything.
Not sure about that. What if you’re a healer? I could agree with it being divided based on the time you spend on it though.
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if you have talked to the devs you will be able to tell there isn’t going to be much magic that you would cast, the thing is more based around oort technologies, so oort cubes in weapons etc, magic isn’t something they plan with and by magic im saying casting healing spells, and also that will depend on if they even add abilities, click 3 to activate azuras heart healing 300 per second… we might not even have abilities and i hope not.
+there is a big debate whether we are going to bend towards standard mmos, tank, dps, healer etc, so far from surveys its more going towards no predefined roles, and do what you want which creates more freedom
Very unlikely combat will work in that way. More likely to be an interplay between what players currently have equipped and what they are doing.
Eg: “I’m going to climb on it and attack the weak spots, you shoot explosive arrows from a distance”
Either player could do one of those things, but one player alone can’t do both those things. Each player is still fulfilling a different strategic role.
We’re not really approaching Titans like an MMO raid boss equivalent, for what it’s worth. For example: assumption about the Titan having HP – Titans may not actually have discreet health points.
We’ve got some really cool, and I think quite original ideas, about how these encounters will happen. Hoping to share more at some point.
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Well from Ben’s post it still seems like basing rewards on damage done is not an appropriate way to split loot seeing how various players will fulfill various roles, which is more of what I was hinting at.
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there are multiple ways for loot split, but in my mind to be fair it has to be done through the system not players,
minecraft version all loot drops, it is very easy for a player to jump in and take it all that done nothing in the fight then go away and become rich.
yes sometimes it can be fair when a group gets it, but then you need to trust the collecter that he isn’t just keeping all the good stuff (all the oort stones and good weps) the and giving everyone little bits at a time.
ESO version, you loot the body, and you gain items, but each loot instance is different from each player, i may get more gold, than jeff and a chestplate instead of a sword.
this one makes it so no one else knows what each other gets unless you tell each other so you cant horde items this way, and this also based on the damage each player does but also for healers who deal no damage, they get their loot on the amount of assistance given to other players.
oh please get it out soon, to stop the idea of it being a raid boss equivalent (that is what it seems like to everyone)
and sounds interesting can’t wait to hear it!
Yep, I agree! Eso loot instancing is nice, but takes time to program.
And for the purposes of this thread, seems like we no longer have anything to talk about. From Ben’s post, sounds like titans will require a set number of players to fill certain roles and having more players doesn’t mean beating the boss any faster.
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Oh no please not that system, where you are guaranteed to get a shield while you are playing with your mage and a staff as soon as you log onto your warrior.
I hope that titans will only drop rare materials and not readytowear equipment. Then the loot system could just be [dropped materials] / [participating players (not saying what counts as participating)] with a few lucky players if that number isn’t integral
Well the whole point of my thread is to discuss how high this magical number should be.
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i line the raid version from wow with 1 version for 10 player and 1 version for 25 players
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from a other topic
giant → 5 player
guardians → 10 player
ancient → 25 player
so you can play with every group size, and u have something for hardcore player who like to play as a big group ^^
i really like the raids in wow with 25 player ^^
I would be incredibly disappointed if Oort became a WoW clone in any way. Yeah, it wasn’t so long ago that I was playing WoW, and I still think its one of gaming’s greatest creations… but to have a game as special as Oort to adopt any of its mechanics, as so many games have done over the years… it would just kill it for me
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I would not say that having the same group sizes is already coping.
i will no copy from wow ^^ i will just diffrent group sizes^^
because as example in guild wars 2 is only possible as 5 man group… an that is still boring
u need still 5 player groups, but many players like bigger groups
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Ah okay sorry. I thought you were hinting at these situations being instanced with small groups of players. My bad
Now I´m just to curious to not ask:
I always loved to tank the big guys to keep the rest of my group in a relative safety. Will this (tanking) also be a viable role in the design you have currently in mind for titan fights?
Please don’t make it a mess deafeating ancients. It should not matter how much player you are but how skilled you are. a group of 5 skilled player should be able to outperforme a group of 25 noobs!!!
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Sounds like Shadow of the Colossus. With multiplayer. This makes me happy. 
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