Prestige on Gleam - Refined Gleam too high

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It would be down to personal preference. If you want to build your castle out of brick, so bet it. If you want to build it out of cobbles or sand, go ahead - a giant world tree? You can do that too, at no cost to your prestige value.

The current system is somewhat arbitrary, though I’d have nothing against things that are harder to make (require more materials, rarer materials, high skill levels) having a higher value. Refined Gleam at the moment is too easy to obtain for the value - but I’d also like things like leaves and raw wood to have at least some value.

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I agree that gleam is a quick and easy way to build prestige. I spent about an hour on Kada mining the gleam there stopping at a full smart stack. I took that home and refined it. Dug a sub basement and placed about 200 refined gleam blocks and added about 10,000 prestige. I still have plenty of the refined gleam to place if I wanted to for even more prestige.

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The only “gleam” that is easy to get is from Kada. Cool Blue. All the other gleams are generally a pain to get.

So in the grand scheme of things, there is less gleam than any other type of block in game.

And just because you people with your art degrees thing gleam towers suck – doesnt mean the rest of us do. Some people actually like them.

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Also, if Refined wood, or Deco Stone becomes the new highest prestige thing, then they will replace the gleam towers and all you people will complain about wood towers, or stone towers, or towers of Clay.

You will always complain about whatever material gives the “highest prestige to difficulty to collect” ratio.

And min/maxers will find it. No matter what.

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I’d defend peeps rights to build what they want (within CoC ofc) as also people should be allowed to voice a subjective opinion on a build.
Ps. I have a degree in the arts.(say that quickly ten times…)
Pss. There was a vid on boing boing yesterday about this amazingly stoic Lyft driver putting up with over 15mins of abuse from a customer…he just sat there, looking into the camera…silent. I think there are a few people like that on these forums.

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Right now refine gleam (different world version) has 19 prestige/ unit
I can gather 3600 gleams in 1 hour.
If I spend 5 hour in 1 day i can get 18000 gleams.

Mass craft refine gleams give you x 1. 3 refine - gleams

so it should be 18000 x 1.3 x 19 = 444,600 prestige.

And this is just 1 person’s work.

Sorry, but gleam is way too easy to collect for old players.
You only need 1 forge regen bomb + 1 aoe hammer.

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I don’t believe you can gather enough materials to craft 4680 decoration wood / stone in 1 hour.
Thats impossible.

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I’ve placed 20000 brick and 15000 decorative block 2. And my capital is in danger from gleam. I play all day just to keep 50k ahead. went to there settlement and gleam everywhere. Maybe I don’t have all my bonuses or something if anyone will stop by dreadlands on serpen and give me some pointers would be very appreciated. Thank you

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Sounds like the problem is Kada gleam them — since that is the only cool blue and everoyne takes it and moves to to their new planet.

Change how Kada gleams spawns and problem solved.

Kada is the only gleam that spawns in such huge amounts, which again is why everyone has it.

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Trust me, it’s possible. There’s 4 of us. Our gatherer and myself had a stack of waxy earthyams in a matter of 20 min. Gill keeps us stocked with stone and compact peat. Our spark is in the millions and our crafter just goes ham. We easily get the resources well within an hr. :sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses:

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I think you’re missing the point @Gill. Prestige at the very least needs to adhere to block rarity. Right now Refined Gleam has the same value as bricks - so perhaps it’s just bricks that need buffing.

Yes, there will always be an optimal block for Prestige, but the gap can be closed, so that the difference is negligible. Then we’ll start seeing more block diversity.

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It should base on player preference, rather than just numbers. Numbers that define our building personalities and values, does it really boil down to the essential points? No, it boils down to the time spent harvesting all that preferred materials for your settlement. All the time spent crafting that specific wood, which takes a long time for 1 mass craft. Roughly 25 minutes for a mass-craft, and that’s only 50 refined wood at a time, same goes for refined rocks. Alas, all that time spent building actual beautiful buildings that resemble real life settlements. Say for example, if somebody wants to build an old school steampunk or a medieval settlement, it shouldn’t have to struggle to keep up with the 30 min build of insane amounts of gleam from other settlements that put zero to nada effort in staying ahead.

Now, here comes the topic "But I really don’t want to be “the capital”. Sure yes, but to make more coin off of footfall, you need more prestige and more traffic. So if you wanted to build a beautiful Steampunk city made of refined metals and copper, and some wood and stone… Couple months later the project is finally complete. And guess what? Your settlement is only at #17 on the list. Why? Because apparently farming gleam blocks for an hour beats 3 months of hard work and dedication. It should never be this way.

That’s like hiring a private contractor to build a house, instead he does the complete opposite but still holds it’s value, even then the customers would still be happy with the finished product which would be a half built house. That’s how the prestige is, a dumbfounded judge who only relies on numbers, not dedication.

I am gradually losing my settlement ranks everyday because of gleam monstrosities popping up everywhere. I am constantly on the grind to keep my settlement on the lists so it can attract more people. I guarantee you, all these cities that you see with these gleam towers and so forth? Its all mostly abandoned or ghost town 6 out of 7 days of the week. It shouldn’t be based on a number system, it should be based on effort and activity that area gets that revolves around building. A settlement that expands daily is a very active settlement, as in terms of settlement buildings. Not adding another 20 plots onto your tower with more refined gleam. All those settlements brag about how beautiful and strong their ranks are, if you’re so prideful of your settlement… Go ahead and rip down all your gleam and see where you’re at?

I’m not saying to take extreme measures on the prestige values, but at least make it balanced so prestige is based on player preferences of building their own settlements, not just numbers which doesn’t even come close to defining how hard we’ve worked on these projects. Evening out the prestige like (some have 3-4 some have like 4-6) depending on how long it takes to make that material and so forth.

So all in all, I wouldn’t mind all blocks having very similar prestige values. I agree with Pseudo.

@Gill Removing gleam from a world won’t solve this problem. Even tho is spawns in huge amounts on Kada and is one of the brightest colors, people can still easily abuse that regen bomb tactic on another world’s gleam. It wouldn’t solve anything in my opinion.

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I agree with the brick buff. I farm 20k mud then 20k ash 20k clay compact it then rock make into stone. Then craft it using spark. Then cook it in the crucible. What is the current value of brick Vs refine gleam both being exotic?

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Not exactly sure how the exotic multiplier works. If it’s the same as it was during beta, the exotic bonus seemed to be calculated after all the raw numbers, and based on the percentage of your build that was exotic.

As it stands Refined Gleam and Bricks both have a base value of 10 Prestige (without plot multipliers)

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That is crazy that it is the same.

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by 1 person i mean. not 4 people.
If you are talking about 4 people you need to times the number x4.
4680 is the number i can gather for enough materials for re-fine gleam in 1 hour.

so if you are talking about 4 people you need to use 18720 to compare.

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i don’t know why you talk about kada gleam.
I collected it at grovidas te.

and only thing i need to do there is stand -> throw bomb -> collect ->throw bomb ->collect.

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Even that number isn’t hard. You all need to get the solo aspect out of your minds. It’s called, make friends, join a group/guild and work collectively to better the group. Makes this game way easier then the salty babies make it out to be.

On the note of regen bombs, we don’t need them nor have we ever used them. Our guild isn’t lazy. We haven’t even gleam farmed in weeks. That’s what’s happens when you collectively work towards something, you surpass the need to use gleam as your primary source of prestige.

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Lol I mean if you want to fair compare its the number you should use for.
You don’t compare the effort by 4 people to 1 person’s grind rate.

If you can get 18720 deco stone/ wood materials ready in 1 hour by 4 people than we can discuss it.

This is the refine gleams i calculate for 4 people’s effort, and maybe even more.

My point is the re-fine gleams are way too easy to get but the prestige is way too high.

I didn’t say you should grind alone, but if you want to compare the grind result, you should not use the 4 people’s grind result to compare with 1 person’s grind result.

Me and my friend we are running the guild, and our guild is not small at all.
So, yeah of course i know how team work can give you more benefit.
But even this is true, i really don’t want my entire group just grind the gleams everyday to increase the prestiges to compete with others.

There are still a lot of great content in the game we should focus on, not only do the gleam grinding lol.

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You realize many other blocks are worth far more than gleam right? Not really a concern about gleam.

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