I encountered a large area on serp last night that was beaconed and walled off, at level 0-16, right in a hotspot, i gave up trying to circumnavigate it but im guessing its a perimeter and they have open areas inside, very annoying and greedy
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There are a lot of spots like that on serp sadly.
Best thing you can do now is report the beacons when you get near it to let the devs know this is an issue even though technically it’s allowed.
It’s really bad behavior. There’s like 3 bad offenders when it comes to this behavior. We had a good 20 person discussion going with the devs a few weeks back, but ultimately these guys (they are very active on the forum) ended up just repeatedly flagging my post stopping the discussion flat.
Most of us hate this and wish it would change, but unfortunately the devs don’t understand how off-putting this behavior is. I ended up one night getting sandwiched between 2 of these zones 20 minutes just navigating my way out to a different spot. Can’t imagine what it would be like if I was on a PS4 lol.
Anyway, I agree report it. Maybe if we are loud enough we can make a difference : )
I doubt it would do anything, its not out of line with the COC unfortuantely, just out of line with common decency
As far as etiquette goes, I believe a personal mine is perfectly acceptable but walling off an entire mountain is probably crossing the line.
Serp is a popular spot though so unfortunately some of these “personal mines” may come close to one another effectively making navigation difficult for other players.
I don’t really understand how this is a problem. Serp is my main mining spot. I very rarely mine else where now days. And while I have encountered this situation. It is not really that big of a deal. there are many many spots on that world for diamond. I understand it might be a little annoying to dig down to an area only to find it to be protected, but you can make a note of it, and find another spot, with how large the world is. they cannot block off all of the diamonds or even most of them.
If someone really wants to commit an extreme amount of plots to try to wall off a large area of diamonds, well then hats off to them i suppose. there are still other places.
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Walling off gems is a form of PvP. Best counter would be for everybody to go plot a beacon at ground level over every significant hotspot to prevent a ceiling from being completed easily.
So reserving hotspots for public access?
Possibly, not sure how effective or necessary it would be. May end up safeguarding hotspots they were never going to target in the first place.
I know coming out f the main Ultima portal there is a portal called “Diamond Mines”.
I checked it out and it seems like a really good public service for those player’s first starting getting gems.
I wish that portal was there when I first wanted gems.
This is a map of the plotted area on Serpen (took from here http://boundless.ninja/beacon-maps/)
Yes there are many “boxes” but the planet is huge and there are a lot free and good spots for mining.
And if you want to be sure, just place a beacon with one plot at lv20/24 and you can be sure that nobody can box that area in the future.
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Yeah. Public Service Announcement: Regen is no longer broken, and atlases actually update.
No need to build boxes around gems.
The problem is some of the best hotspots are already heavily taken and while doing this may prevent it for you it will seem like that for everyone else if it does get surrounded by someone as they cannot tell your plot is there.
Not to mention the person could still block around you and an exterior wall for the rest of the resources by just having an alt with a different name or friend to do it so it’s not something you could easily report.
A lot of times it is “just walls”.
Carry with you an atlas with a warp augment in it. it will show beaconed areas. If it is just a line straight in front of you, that means it has no roof. just go up and over. Most of the time they count on you hitting the wall and giving up. but if you go up and over, usually the juicy center is untouched and well stocked! and sometimes even lava free, as they scout the best areas before plotting =D
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The moment they do that, it becomes reportable as that can be seen as preventing someone from expanding, even if its just one plot.
sure it is, go/dig to the offending wall, look at it, and press this button
having an alt doesn’t matter. I am pretty sure most if not all online games, punish the whole account. and if a friend wants to do it, then that friend is taking the risk of getting punished, either way someone will get punished, if the devs find the report to be valid.
I know the discussion of areas being blocked off has been brought up recently and pretty much been beaten to death.
My perceived lack of players and the fact that there are MANY spots UNPLOTTED makes it seem to me that it is easy to find a place to mine.
Maybe it isn’t the best possible though???
Also, one could always go to another planet to mine if they are running into many beacons.
OR return to sanctum and warp to an area that doesn’t show as plotted.
I know when I go mining I always use warp conduits toy preferred spot.
The issue is you get two people to do it or two characters thus it’s impossible for the player to know that.
Or they plot all but one small side but have it a very long path to get out other then straight up.
The point is one single plot won’t prevent this and only a very large amount making the area where resources are reserved but not plotted or blocked off will only be able to block it.
The issue is the other planets are not as profitable really.
Farming for emeralds / amethysts results in much less gems because of how rarer they are in such small areas and titanium / high grade coal because of those two gems requirements since they need to be under low level water areas
And going for topaz / sapphire is another issue since it’s so high up you won’t get any of the other valuable resources you find down low such as titanium, gold and good coal.
Even alcyon is not a good option since it’s a t6 and has a ton more lava areas and lower amount of gems last I checked.
Either the worlds need to be balanced or serp will just get worse and worse.
Also you do not need to use warp conduits as you can do the same in the sanctum and those are just useful when playing with others.
Ehmm, not sure why it would be different on a PS4?
I don’t agree at all. If I put down a plot, and a while later suddenly there is a ring of plots around me, blocking my way out, i do not care if it was done by 1 character/player, or 10 characters/players, it is fairly obvious to anyone who ponders about the situation for more then a moment, what is most likely happening. I have a ring of plots around me, that is all that matters at that point. and I am decently sure the devs will understand that collaboration effort for breaking the rules doses not suddenly make it legal.
Depending what you define as “small” and how this is done, it still may be punishable.
If you take this rule at face value, one can build a decent case that plotting 3 sides around someone, can show intent to stop them from expanding. It doesn’t state it haves to be all 4 sides as long as the intent can be proven to the dev. 1 or 2 sides obviously is a weak case, 3 sides is a strong case, 4 sides is a solid case
but that is up for the devs/GM to make that judgement. I would report it anyway. Somewhere it is stated to report things that you are unsure if they are breaking the rules or not. The worst that can happen is nothing is done.
I am not here to debate rather or not this is an effective way to prevent the situation or not. My point is only about the risks someone may or may not be taking by trying to get around this proposed solution. Nothing more.