You’ll all be here months from now and we’ll be on to the next economy disaster. It’s been this way since the beginning, A few different problems and few new posters here and there.
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What’s annoying is some shop owners (at least me back when i ran my shop) had a very small profit margin. With all these gleam and spark trends, my coin is losing value relatively so if this continues, the thousands you made a couple of months ago wont be worth as much in a few months when everyone has easy millions now.
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Yeah, where gleam minting was causing gradual inflation, this will cause extremely quick inflation. Money you have now will effectively be worth 4 times less within days.
It’s Friday tomorrow, hotfix will be coming am sure, no need to panic!
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Small panic.
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I feel you… i feel you… 
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Those prices look about correct to me. I think they were well thought out, and don’t need “hot-fixed”.
Spark is (or was) an afterthought. Everyone could stack 16 Spark Gens and jam in millions of spark, then forget about it for a month.
This instantly creates a market for spark and fuel. and makes it now a thought that you have to calculate into your prices.
There are plenty of things you can do to make coin/hr by farming. If you are willing to put in the time.
Once the shops are sold out of current stock, and get re-stocked @ above the prices listed above, the market will level out, with prices a bit higher, because spark is now more valuable and is no longer an after-thought, but is built into the price of everything.
What about timber? No time to craft. No spark needed to craft. Loads quickly… same negatives as peaty… but when you count spark to compact and time to compact it’s better… also, you get sap and bark.
So this wont help the economy in any way?
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True. But none get even remotely close to the 600k/hr you can make with peat. One of the reasons gleam minting was nerfed, was because it created an akward situation where mindlessly botting 1 resource for hours, was the most efficient way of earning coin in the game. Now they’ve introduced one that’s even more effective.
There’s already a market for this though. Plenty of people (myself included) buy all their spark. In fact, it’s hard to find hard compact coal before the update, so clearly there was a good amount of demand.
The issue is not so much the price of spark. The issue is that by making it so valuable, there will be a massive influx of money into the economy. This means that anybody not participating in spark minting, will have their money devalued by a LOT. Because of hyper-inflation, prices of every single item will skyrocket, leaving people who don’t want to mint spark, very far behind. Where they used to be able to buy 10 of an item with 600 coins, they will now only be able to buy 2 of that item, for the same amount of money.
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Yeah I don’t want to / plan to bot but this change almost makes it feel like you have to, in order to keep up now.
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There is a balance issue.
I would have made like 5 million coin today just from gathering sap. Sap that was worth …maybe 200k.
The wood should not get me more coin from the minter then the rare resource it drops (from either the community or the minter)
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Really? Seems like it’s going well during Naughty Hunts. You’re welcome to join us. 
We hunt daily and have been considering helping during the late afternoon hunts… we see the community need, and one of our leaders has an easier time during late afternoon (her time)… we just don’t want to step on toes…
We meet at 4 pm UTC time at The Naughty Hunt Lodge. We hunt on Beseverona. We do both running hunts and platforms. We hunt for two hours and we have a good time.
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I’ll give you that, But if there was a way to JUST take the “farmables” out of this equation, then that would be the only fix needed.
Indeed, there was. Cause there is no reason to go mine coal, when it is 19c for hard coal. Not worth my time to even mine coal when going for gems/lucents. (And from the looks of the bomb holes, bomb miners agreed, it wasnt even worth mining when you saw it)
Just find a shop stand, buy it at super cheap, problem solved. That’s not a “demand” as far as i see it, that is an underpriced resource
This is unavoidable, true. But I’d say if they just fix the farmables, then its a one time deal. After that, are you gonna mint your coal? or are you gonna sell it for more profit. OR you might just use it!
EDIT: But, for my money’s worth (pun intended) those coal prices look very close to about right for the effort it takes to gather
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I’d like to but it’s usually while I’m at work : / and I don’t mean that the number of hunts sucks, just that it’s gotten kinda boring - what with updates teased or hinted at but nothing new.
I hope you guys do start up an evening hunt! Now that squatch is taking a more casual approach, it’d be nice to have that option available again regularly
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I mean they could just make it non-mintable
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So you feel a lump of hard coal should be worth easily 150% the market value of a rough diamond?
Agreed, if you take farmables (aka peat) out of the equation, this would be less of an issue. But how do you take peat/trunk out of the equation? Have them generate a ton less spark? That’d be a gigantic nerf to new players and honestly make peat pretty much useless.
Bomb mining doesn’t work anymore, hasn’t worked for… a year maybe? Bombs destroy blocks now, don’t drop them 
This is kinda true, but i don’t think coal was ever meant as a resource you “go out and farm”. It’s a byproduct of farming gems. Just like components and fossils.
The reason lots of miners don’t bother with anything but what they’re looking for (99% of the time that’ll be gems), is simple. Miers get lots of spark already due to getting coal as a byproduct when mining tunnels/grids/whatever method they use. I experienced this when i was mining early-game. Spark was overflowing even though i never targeted coal.
I am not sure what you are refering to here?
Nobody is minting coal. They’re minting spark due to the ridiculous minting price.
(i apologize if i seem abrasive, i am actually enjoying this argument because you are actually adressing my arguments rather than ignoring them and sticking your head in the sand!)
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Honestly… why not? You do not need diamonds to make everything like you do fuel…
I get it. They are diamonds. should be worth a lot. but if we are talking real-talk, they are underpriced too.
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So, real talk here, how much should a person make from an hour of an activity?
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