Spark value

I’m not getting 600k an hour. I’m probably not doing this terribly efficiently but it’s more like 200k per hour :woman_shrugging: That compaction and conversion time is pretty long

I don’t think it’s so much about the amount. It’s about what activities should be most rewarding. I don’t have much of an opinion on that, but i do feel that mindlessly botting a block should definitely not be on top of that list.

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Right and people out farming coal for the unlimited appetite of the minter will also push diamonds and other gems lower.

With unlimited market for large fossils at ~50c and hard coal at ~75c the gem market can flood so bad they’ll practically be mining discards. Value closer to medium fossils (~20c) and medium coal (~23c).

EDIT No I don’t think people will actually toss gems :rofl:

In my eyes, its really hard to give a real “what this should be” when the only thing that really slows us down for most items is time. Even though coal is a limited resource, its so abundant we all can farm for it and it not be a big problem. When you add in everything else you get since coal is a byproduct of mining, we are looking at increasing the income gap from mining compared to everything else.

I personally think they were just off by a decimal. 4c sounds about right for bottom floor on spark. That way the market has a chance to equalize instead of being set at a price that is so out of balance with the rest of the economy.

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And thats why we have devs that are smarter than me. I’m sure they can come up with something!

If only this were true…

Resource seams have more health than rock. So all you need to do is forge a bomb with the damage above the rock health, but juuuuust below the health of a seam.

But ya, the real reason they were just after the gems/lucents is because they were worth more than anything else. IF perhaps, the coal seams were worth it, maybe they snag both?

No need to apologize! There is a problem, we just talking about how to solve it =D

when i say “minting” i mean the whole process of compact>spark generate>mint spark

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Edit: Don’t worry @molav, I’m not judging you…but I’m going to have to take that coal into protective care…

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They fixed block armor against this a long time ago. Bombs will destroy seams before rocks now. This is not just reading I’ve tested it.

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Well, I am not sure how they are doing it, but the leftover mess at the last Rift planet was holes with all rock gone, and only a few bits of coal/fossils/sand/gravel left behind

for sure wasnt as neat as a hammer miner

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Oh you should see me mine :rofl:

I have no patience for moving in a straight line or creating a level floor.

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Most of us no longer do tunnels. We spray and pray with our hammer swinging a million times a second. Its amazing all of us don’t have seizures or something.

wait… Damage calculator says T7 rock has 6,000HP, and seams have 12,000HP

EDIT: Getting off track! sry sry… main point was, they left the coal

With the armor calcs it breaks all seams before the rock. Bombs do bonus damage to seams if you want to look at it like that. Many people on exos go for specific items and leave everything that is easily farmed on normal worlds.

I’ll be hosting at the usual time one day and skipping the next one :smiley:

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I have a group of friends and we go hunting every day.

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Just some toughts on minting the energy, I agree it’s worth it, but based on the massive ammount of materials I would need to make 1Mc I won’t even touch it. For somebody that already has things in place, I presume it will be more than worth the time, and as there are such persons I am preatty sure the prices for materials will change if the mint value is not changed.

I do shop a lot for materials and I do keep track of what I buy, make,sell. And prices are almost always in the doubles. So for ex if I forge an AoE Hammer, I would sell it for aprox 2x the cost of materials (even if I actually gather some of them). Same for anythign I produce and sell. That is why I said it should not be more than 0.02c , as the medium price is 0.01c.

Regarding ppl that use peat for energy, well, I tried that, and I know how much work it is vs coal, so if they get more profit, they deserve it for the ammount of work it goes into doing it.

So basically, if I would start doing this, creating spark to mint, there wouldn’t be any time for me to do anything else in the game, and it wouldn’t be an enjoyable thing. I think this is the same for many other players out there that will not want to spend theyr time gathering peat for themselves (around 600SS of peat soil to transform in around 80SS of compact peat to mint them and get 1Mc). But if peat price increases at the spark factory, I will defenetly pay them a visit :slight_smile:

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So some vague results:
Got 130k for the last hour of peat farming, 170k for the one before that, 160k for the one before that. Not great, not bad :woman_shrugging: Boring as all hell and super time consuming. Good for converting bulk excess spark (got a good chunk from peat stockpiles and all the hard coal I bought earlier) but a helluva chore otherwise.
4/10 would not recommend.

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The biggest difference is where the money is coming from. With mining all the money is coming from other players, with the minter it is just poofed into existence. One thing is for certain though, people are definitely paying off their minter coil purchases with this one.

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More than most were making from the gleam farming that was recently made into such a “crisis”.

I got bored and decided to film me taking down a full generator set, replacing it, and minting the spark. This was a an already full basement generator that’s rarely used and will be easily refilled after the dust settles.

657580 coin in 11 minutes. Tear down and replacement of the generators included.

The dullness of farming aside if you have some full generators around you might want to capture the moment before they correct this.

I’m not sure if youtube is still processing the video quality gets better after a minute.

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So it’s just the source of the money that makes it a problem?

Wouldn’t it be like a gold rush, an economy spike or something?