Before patch, I was using 2 iron explorer’s fists to mine stuff on T6 planets, with no grapple mastery, 6/8 dex. After patch, the fists are slower. Damage seems to be the same. With damage epic and 6/8 agility, I still need to 2-hit rocks and 4-hit ores/gems.
Totally agree Fists are way slower, dunno why they were nerfed. It had a delay between shots but now its ridiculous. Was my go to weapon for defense & killing now I find them almost useless.
What was the purpose for slowing them down? 
Im sorry Ross but the firing speed that the fist had was perfectly fine as they were, yes you can now apply some more damage with the grapple mastery and such, but either with buffs (which are not something a starter player can have right away tbh) they are sluggish to use, you get killed in the reload “step” its not useful anymore… why nerf it?.. heck not even that much people used them anyways, why take the fun out of everyone else who DID used them?.. I just don’t get it…
Speak for yourself, would you? I had blast with them before, I have even more now when grapple mastery works correctly on them.
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This by no means is this a nerf. every tool and weapon were made to reflect one another. Before the patch you could have the same action speed stat on two different items and their swing time would be different. This made it that if any item has an action speed of lets say 4 they will both swing exactly the same. So in short not a need just bringing everything to be online with one another
With a mega fast brew it definitely affects it. I recorded a video showing the difference. If you don’t have dexterity then that’s probably why it was still slow. 80% of action speed 5 isn’t very much. With dexterity I have an action speed of 25, which should increase to 50 with the mega fast brew.
I should’ve recorded a video with a mega fast brew and my forged 49 action speed fist, that was just ridiculous.
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Oh wow. Very nice. So action speed boon affects the fist too. That is good to know
It does, I’ll attach a photo of the one I’m using. It was actually the reason I thought base fists were much faster than before, until I realized my mistake. I’ll need to try to make another batch of those.
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Machinegun fists are so much fun.
Now, if @james would make it so they pass through other characters :]
On hunts about 70% of my shots are blocked by players, frustrating.
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It’s not working on iron fists. 