The effects of Teaching food when you log off

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Seeking clarification on this:

What is the effect of eating teaching food and logging off while I have items being crafted?

Specifically;

  • When I log back on, do I gain extra XP from items that are already finished but took longer to complete than the duration of the teaching food?
  • Do I get extra XP for items that were completed while I was logged off?

Thanks

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Good question. Seems to me there are three possibilities:

  1. Teaching food buff is checked when crafting starts
  2. Teaching food buff is checked when crafting completes
  3. Teaching food buff is checked when XP is collected*

(* - even when you are logged in you might not collect the exp right away if your crafter is not near the machine)

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This. Tralala 10 chars.

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Experience for finished crafting is awarded when that character logs back in and gets close enough to the machines where the crafting was queued.

Experience pies (and other food buffs) do not count down when logged off.

So, putting both together, you can queue up crafting, eat pie, log off, wait for all queues to finish, log back in and all that experience will be doubled (for pies), without counting down the time on your experience buff.

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This is what we do when we are leveling an alt. We give them mass, eat teaching pies, and set up as much crafting on that char as possible, then log off until it’s all done. The bonus xp applies from the moment we log in. So I can confirm you get the xp from the teaching food just from getting close to the machines with the food in effect. So you can eat it, log off, then log right back on next to the machine and it will count.

edit: by logging off I mean we switch characters. We can still play while it’s happening, we just don’t log onto that character until it’s ready.

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I could use some additional guidance if you can help?

I have crafted and placed 50 crafting tables.
I have been out and mined about 6k of rock so far, now as I understand it epic 1 volume crafting will give me an additional 20 queue slots per table. So 18 rocks per mass craft x 30 queue slots x 50 tables = 27k of rock.

According to the guidance above the buff pauses whilst logged off, so therefore does this mean I should aim to put the full 27k of rock in the queue before eating the pie for the sake of maximum efficiency?

When I log back in some 2 hours later will the buff from the pie start where i left off?
i.e. could I then take the rock jump down a mine and place the rocks to further boost the xp gain?
Is it also worth putting whatever I have lying around in the furnaces too?

By the way if any miners out there want to dump rock and are giving it away I will take it : )

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In the specific case of crafting tables and mass-queue of stones, with volume crafting epic you need 540 rocks per table to get a full queue of 30 mass crafts.

The full queue lasts 2h5m, and depending on how many tables you have, you might ‘lose’ some crafts in the first few tables before you finish queueing the mass crafts on the last ones, so I would eat the pie a couple minutes after queueing up the first table, just to make sure to double ALL the stone crafting XP.

The way I usually do it is: Queue a bunch of mass refining of stones (25m per mass craft, so 5 mass crafts each to sync up with the tables) on refineries, queue anything I need from Extractors and Compactors, queue Workbenches for Decorative Stone (if I have the wax), eat the pie, then queue stones in all my crafting tables, start cooking on any furnaces that I have, and log off for 2h5m.

The buff will not count down while you’re logged off (or playing with some alt)

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This is well documented in a video elsewhere on the forum;

For the most bang for your buck you want to stock each table with 540 rocks (30x18) beforehand. When everything is ready, you gobble your pie first (this starts the double xp timer) and then set as many mass crafts as you have tables for. Then immediately log out of that character while you still have a good few minutes on your pie buff left.
NB. this character stays in sanctum until all crafts are done!! Thats about 2.5h. Upon your return make sure to run as close as possible past each table to make sure the XP registers. (While the buff is still active)

  • eating the pie before you start helps give the double bonus for the first few crafts that generally finish before you can queue all the crafts you want. To live on the edge, set a timer and only eat the pie just before your first craft finishes, about 3mins after your first queue to be safe.

Edit: @Arkhainn beat me to it :yum:

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Thanks for that, is it worth eating a pie before going mining aswell? I mined about 6k of rock in 30 mins without super tools and if I had eaten a pie it would have got me 24k XP instead of 12k XP.

Although I have all the machines now, I haven’t started using them heavily yet and need to rig up spark to them. So I probably could not do all that at once, but can defo smelt some glass and cook some food etc.

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I think it depends on what you’re mining. If you’re mining low tier worlds, with cheap and plentiful tools, maybe.

But if you’re using expensive / forged tools, then a persisting pie makes more sense for mining. It makes your tool last longer (and thus give more xp) while saving you money in tool replacements.

I only use xp pies for crafting, personally. Because I usually can get around 400k experience from the pie (plus 400k from crafting XP, for a total of a bit over 800k) out of each pie. Way more than I’d get out of mining.

Sometimes double if I happen to have enough rocks stocked up for two runs back to back.

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(Edit: That’s only from 84 crafting tables, 24 refineries and 12 workbenches. I’m sure other people have scaled it up to a lot more than that, but since most, if not all, my rocks come from request baskets in my shop, that’s enough for my needs)

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Guess it’s time to collect the remaining 21k rock I need then lol

Also if you have a power coil do you still need spark aswell?

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They’re separate things.

Some recipes require spark, some require power, some require both, and a bunch require neither.

I try to use primarily recipes that use neither spark nor power for my XP crafting.

Refined rock, nails, cogs, buckets, things of that nature. If I happen to have a lot of spare wax then I do some decorative rock (at 10k spark per mass craft, 5 mass crafts per workbench to match the stone crafting time of 2h5m, 12 workbenches, total of 600k spark or 40 hard coal).

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