monetize it… Ha. I can hear the rants of Pay To Win already… I don’t multibox, heck after them adding and me unlocking 5 skill pages I don’t even use the Alts on the one account I have anymore either, I don’t need to be the best at everything, I’m more than happy having a few things I’m really good at, and a couple that I’m ‘good enough’ at.
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in my opinion, “AFK play” is not the same as Multi-boxing, “AFK play” in my opinion is when someone is AFK for a prolonged amount of time or using bots or scripts to fully automate their characters.
Multi boxing in a hunt requires the player to move their alts to the new location. and this takes some effort, even if it is a minimal amount. so clearly the player is controlling the alts and is not AFK. If that player is using scripts to do this, then that would be a different problem.
This is nothing new, in a good amount of games, Multi-boxing will give an advantage over a player who decides not to.
And on a side note, in some games, simply having more then one character on the same account, even when not mutli-boxed, will give an advantage over someone who picks to only ever play on one character.
Unless you are against multi-boxing, I think this is a non-issue, but lets not conflate multi-boxing with AFKing, also because the econ in this game is trashed beyond repair, Multi-boxing in a hunt, hurts absolutely no one. So I don’t see why we should care.
The only time I think we should start viewing this as a problem, is if the multi-boxing gets so out of hand that it prevents people from joining the hunt because the world has reached its player cap because of people controlling more then one character eating up the player slots.
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I agree it takes minimal effort, but it would take zero effort in a gleambow hunt. Park 20 accounts at a gleambow platform use your main toon to call the meteors and wham … gold 
So seems totally fair. It all affects the economy and you are correct the economy is as you call it “trashed beyond repair”. But this of course isn’t a normal hunt, but the same could apply with a little more work involved.
I have multiboxed with 2 other accounts and as I’ve stated it seems a tad unfair. I don’t really care as I don’t run 50000 portals, but people do have shops that they sell things at and that in turns drives prices lower (yay lower prices) but then it causes everyone else to have to lower prices and compete with someone with a much higher stock than you.
But I digress and agree, while the economy is sort of messed up the option to multibox currently would allow someone to control the what market there is more and more.
I mostly just wanted to know if it was a bannable offense or if in the future it would be. If not, then I’ll load up 20 accounts and start gleambow hunting away.
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This is the root of most of my commentary in this particular thread. Admitting my bias I’ve tried to keep that fairly on point.
I really do understand the feeling of “I kill creatures, you collect 2/3/+ times loot” upsetting people.
This is definitely going on since we were having trouble with player caps. There were 2 openly named/admitted alts on the first group hunt I joined, December 2018. At that time the only thing said was that it was players with playstation and PC accounts. This doesn’t feel as hokey to people as it did when it later became clear people were using VMs and whatnot.
There is a tutorial on the forum for using a specific VM, I think it’s called “boxie” or something but I’m not digging right now. 
my actual IRL house is flooded this morning so I’m posting on a coffee break 
Having these things on the forum and in official game channels is something that encourages players to feel that this is an officially endorsed activity.
That alone is enough for someone who is new to the game to move into doing this via either multiple devices (PC/PS/Geforce/Shadow/ETC) or VMs directly with strong confidence that it’s OK. Having the hunt leaders invite it onto the hunts only adds to this.
So I have no idea what the mentioned bans may or may not have been for, but I sure hope it wasn’t related to multi-boxing.
I really don’t see the problem or the need to make this into a big issue if theres no botting or scripts involved. There have always been alts along on hunts I participated in, going all the way back to 2019 when the playerbase was much larger and the planets fewer. Bigger meteors, with more portals and more mobs meant more mob drops for everyone, although as the meteors get bigger they take longer to kill, which tends to balance the oort rate somewhat. So what if there’s a person is pulling an extra inventory or two? Often that person is supplying oort for a guild portal network or some other highly intensive portal system. If the price of oort was bottoming out, it might be a different story, but its still averaging at something like 350c last I looked. Likewise the price on forging materials is climbing. I remember selling hopper cores for 500c now they are 2 to 3 times that in value. Demand is massively outpacing supply on these things. If supply finally starts catching up to the demand prices will theoretically lower. less expensive forge materials means the forged tools cost less. If the tool cost to forge goes down, then forgers can sell their tools for less to everyone. Which means those slingbows you are burning up on extra mobs the alts create will be cheaper. The current cost to get into the forging game, just to build up a stock of bases and such is really brutal. Its no wonder we have so few people actually out there forging and so many empty forge shops around the game.
Bringing (as in the earlier example) 20 of your alts along on a hunt would be excessively greedy, and if it happened on a hunt I was at I’d probably find an excuse to depart, assuming I could even get into a planet that had that many alts just standing around. Just as at Feather Falls, if one (or a few) people are willing to farm for all those inactive accounts and someone is going to move them around (without a bot program or something absolutely against the rules) I don’t really see the issue. Its their choice to use up the durability of their weapons supporting a bunch of leeches.
If its on a Sov, as 99% of meteor hunts are now, the hunt runner/owner can decide where to draw the limit, or not draw the limit. If you are gonna take 18 alts to a 20 person planet and try to hunt… well I hope you and the poor hunt leader packed a lot of extra slingbows and revive augments, those Core 6 meteors will take a while.
In the end this seems like much ado about nothing. Don’t like the hunts that have too many alts? Don’t go to those hunts. Schedule your own maybe. If someone’s bringing too many alts to your hunt, ask them POLITELY not to. If they keep doing it, block them from the Sov, stop inviting them to join you. It’s really not difficult. Have fun, don’t be a jerk to other people, same stuff they drilled into us in kindergarten. I’d dare say it’s common sense.
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even if it is easier then a regular hunt, moving 20 chars one by one, is still some effort, and if you are willing to go to the effort to do that, then I don’t see the problem as long as the 20 chars are not locking people out of the hunt who want to join if it is a public hunt.
Well… If they spend a lot of time worrying about what other people are doing, then yes. That could be upsetting for people, along with many many other things in life. I find it makes for a healthier mindset to focus on myself and what is in my control, and not worry about rather or not someone else is being 2times or 3 times more effective then I am, in a non-competitive video game.
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Yeah that’s fine as it’s within your playstyle to do everything solo.
The game is in fact economically competitive and this does affect anyone who is trying to earn coins in their hunting activities, or anyone who is trying to gather their materials to support a shop or other enterprise.
Again though, I’ve played games where this was an officially approved/endorsed mode of game play and when that’s the case it’s just one more environmental factor to consider in your planning.
@Tiggs has at least an occasional eye on the forum and if Monumental is not aware this is going on it’s good for them to know as they plan and discuss the direction of future development. After all it’s pretty natural for someone who owns a console and a PC to realize on their own that they can play on both at the same time. Even if they’re not familiar with this type of activity from other games.
As I’ve stated on other issues though, pushing hard for answers sometimes gets you an “easy” answer that you didn’t want. It’s one thing to point it out for consideration but another to be pressing for immediate answers. Otherwise the thread is also mostly harmless, at best a tool for gauging the feelings of the current active players.
Which honestly seems to be that it’s not that big of a deal.
I’ll end this discussion here and just say for clarity it is multiboxing by either using a program or another computer/console where you control (or don’t control) one or more characters on different accounts at one time.
I don’t mind if people are multiboxing in a hunt really I just want to know if I, or anyone in the community I care about, will actually get banned.
In the end, any one can multibox if they want to and whether they have a HUGE portal network like TNT or Ultima (Love you both!) and need to feed a ton of portals or a little guy just looking to stash a ton of Oort and other goodies.
I suppose we can just continue on as is as some people have stated until a more official stance is stated by Monumental.
Until then multibox your heart out … I’m going gleambow hunting.
I don’t have to move more than a single toon in a gleambow hunt unless I’m wanting all the Oort. But that red gleam though …
@majorvex you can close this.
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I wouldn’t know, I can’t stand the econ in this game, too decentralized, and the player base hasn’t helped other aspects of that either. so I have avoided that part of the game and therefore don’t have any standing to try to argue against that.
I don’t really understand what it is you get out of it if you don’t move a single character.
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People have been using the term “hunt” to describe both actual gleambow races and summoning events/parties/whatever.
If you’re summoning gleambow meteors the idle characters just grow the meteor. Since it’s not much of a combat scenario the main can then handle the gleambow meteor solo in most cases.
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Alright on to the next topic…
“Removing Regeneration Bombs” 
Mark my words!!!
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Closed at the request of the OP.
Dev response: "FULLY" AFK Block XP Farm