Not a lot of money doesn’t mean no money. I can still buy stuff that I want but I can’t go spending it on an endless amount of blocks/blocksets and other assorted mtx’es…
Yes agreed and I never said anything to the contrary…
My problem is the blocksets behind a paywall, they can keep adding to it and I will want to have them and thus am spending more than I might want to and more than I perhaps should.
That is what I would not like.
As I said, I know myself I would want all the blocksets…
A demo version of sorts might actually help BL too. Heck if they combine it with an idea I had a while back and mentioned a few times, it would be really rather nice actually. I then suggested level 0 starter worlds where beacons don’t expire and only once they are far enough along and want to add a beacon to a non level 0 world they will start to have to fuel them which the game should make obviously clear. Also set a limit to the amount of plots one can own on a level 0 planet in case anyone wants to exploit it or something. Also once you put a beacon down on a lvl 1+ you can’t place beacons on a lvl 0, etc., etc.
Combine that with a free version where lvl 1+ worlds aren’t even accessible or where the game is limited in another way that would be a good way to let people test it out and even be lazy about the fueling…
I mean, I’m not on CV’s marketing team or whatever, so I don’t have any data, so I don’t know if purely cosmetic things (like masks and bodypaints in BL) would be enough for them to keep developping their game. I’m sure most players are like “I don’t care about cosmetic stuff”. It’s the problem with going F2P. You gotta make sure you sell things that all players would want.
IF Wonderstruck adds cosmetic armors (or just PvE armors as loot in the game and cosmetic transmogrification things on the store), maybe that would be better than new blocksets?
I still have hopes for that apron idea I submitted a while back :
Curious, What changes to the current game would you support? I remember when someone suggested a wipe you also said you would quit {and rightfully so imo}
My point is something is going to have to change because the player base is very low. I can’t imagine this sustainable. I have seen no evidence that the new content that has been added has yielded a significant increase in net active players.
Seems like any big or small changed to help the game survive are dismissed and met with negativity by the current two to four hundred active players. And as I said in a deleted post earlier, I think we are naive to chalk everything up to a lack of marketing. The devs need money. If there are investors, they need to see a return, and so on
Some of us backed over 80 quid, but yeah, don’t lock essential gameplay ‘features’ behind a moving pay wall like that, unless it’s big content such as expansions.
Getting blocks late because I didn’t pay for them, feels like I’m just being teased uselessly.
Then again, the game has trading, so I’m pretty sure people would just sell the items for massive coin profit since not everyone can make them.
I wouldn’t call new block textures “essential gameplay features”, though… that’s really just cosmetic stuff, when it comes down to it.
Now the actual essential gameplay features like the Unchisel boon, Lattice-work boon and such, that’s something that needs to be available to all players.
Sure but even without counting the blocks added in the latest update, it’s not like there is nothing.
There’s way less block variety than Creativerse, but the baseline we have still allowed me to build my huge temple thing. I think that’s good enough.
Like, I’d be pissed if Wonderstruck added furniture on the store first because we barely have a chair and a table (and the 6 chests added recently, which does counts as furniture).
But IF they added a big furniture update, with tables + chairs + beds in wood/stone (and maybe later in metal/gleam/farmed), AND THEN decided to make variations on the store… I’d be fine with that.
Like say they make a new pattern of glass panes and put it on the store, I’d say it’d be fair, since we got the other 3 as a free content (and yeah, I didn’t pay the game knowing these would be added, never saw them in any promotional material, so I consider them as free content).
As long as the price is low enough, like I dunno, maybe 0.25€ or something, I’d be up for it.
Any thing really as long as content is not behind a paywall!
Exceptions to that are DLC tho, but not 5 DLC a month to just name a large amount.
Plenty of f2p games only have cosmetics, plenty of paid full, even AAA, games have cosmetics microtransactions, am all ok with that.
Am ok with paying for rental planets, even for a few extra inventory spots (since you can’t keep doing that endlessly like with blocks/blocksets), etc., etc.
I kinda resent that since I’m not like that, I just do not agree with blocks being behind a paywall or anything else there can be an endless easy supply of, that I really just wanna have and makes me want to spend a lot which in turn will make sure I will start to dislike the game!
I also talked above about a free demo version, even mentioned level 0 planets which also addresses the often heard complaint of losing everything when just starting out.
I have made plenty of suggestions in the past already too.
But let’s turn the table here, what is it that you would be ok with and are there things you would not? To attract new players AND to get more income for the devs I mean… (ie. a wipe or some changes to this or that mechanic is probably not gonna be a big draw).
I didn’t say ALL blocks are just cosmetic, though.
Like, the whole point I made above was that some things are baseline, some are just icing on the top.
I bought the CV pro pack and was really happy with it. In Cv you get two free prize chests every so many hours just for logging in. I like those, the blueprints, and the themed block kits. I don’t have a prob with that. Just like in MC you can buy skins, texture packs, etc. Or don’t. lol I quit buying MC skins/themes when I stopped using my Playstation.
Hey, then a mud hut suffices!
And then you also really do not need unchisels and lattice chisels or anything! Don’t even need forge gear because you really do not need them to go hunting for meteors and stuff
Is it that low nowadays? Yikes… Of course there are also PS4 players but still…
It’s ok, I do agree that people complain way too much on these forums, devs do this, people complain, had they done that instead, people complain, best thing to do to not get complaints is stopping development
Am not trying to, but you seem to want to imply that looks of your build are not important in a game where building is a huge part of the gameplay. Then you say that to do this or that you do not need it to look good, thus I continued on that, that even a mud hut is then good enough as well!
And I know full well that you would not agree with that statement
Thing is, even if they are the same type of blocks but just a different texture I do not like it if it’s behind a paywall, you don’t mind that, I do, that’s fine tho, we just have a different opinion!
There are plenty of other ideas the devs can use to earn more money, even with microtransactions…
That’s why at one point, we’re gonna have to accept some changes that won’t sound so awesome, but it’s for the greater good (I know, not the best reference for me to use, but the soundbyte came to mind immediately as I wrote it).
Like, right now, after they’ve bought the game, some players are basically expecting every update from the devs to be free.
I understand not paying for things that were promised, though.
It’s like with CV, on Steam, oh my fre@king god, the number of people who were like “the Pro Account thing costs 20€?! UGH! I want these things for free!” but they’re already playing the game for free… that trully infuriated me. Felt like reading posts from a bunch of stingy spoiled brats.
What I meant was that what we already had prior to the latest update was enough to build awesome stuff. We have a decent enough baseline list of blocks. That’s pretty much what we paid for.
Did I pay the game knowing that we’d get the octigrid, filigree, circuit board patterns metal textures? Nope.
So to me, that’s free ‘icing on the cake’ content. Content that I wouldn’t mind to pay for (at a reasonable price, of course) IF the game suddenly became F2P.
That’s the kind of things that I’d buy thinking “hey, it helps the devs making more content and making sure that it lives on longer…”.
Mind you, I do think it’s a bad idea from the devs of CV to also sell blocks and not just their recipes. That’s totally P2W, even if there’s nothing to actually win, but the fleeting sense of building cool stuff and looking like a rich dude.
Well then they might attract lots of new players and lose the ones that are here now I suppose, or a few, or a lot, depending on what these changes are…
I don’t, so if that was aimed at me…
I’m ok with paid DLC for huge chunks of content, already mentioned am even ok with inventory space enlargement, etc. Am just not ok with a steady stream of new textures for blocks that we need to pay for…
Thta’s ok, here we differ in opinion.
Plenty of other ways to do that as well…
Same here and it really makes me wonder what the plans are for the future…
