Beacons are for the people, against community's

Have you been to a mall in the sky or Eresho? Tons of huge plotted “holes” that people will probably take eons to build on, if they do. That’s their business.

And yes, you can cover over stuff like that as long as you leave them an access point/doorway in

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If it is really abandoned how is the owner going to report them? Plus they can put a couple of gates in. People might sacrafice their alts there before big hunts to the voxel gods.

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In my opinion, if you truly don’t play, you shouldn’t be able to keep a plot forever. It hurts others too much.

For example, those plots on Finata were probably a huge reason for the big move to Eresho. It was crippling the city. There was no room to expand.

That move to Eresho ultimately was bad for the community - a lot of people got left behind in the move, and a bunch of actives quit the game. Ultima never really recovered from the move IMO. I’d argue that the move hurt the entire game and entire player base through trickle down effect. Eresho is nice, but it’s nowhere near as active as Finata.

Was it worth hurting the community so that one person could claim 300 plots and never use them or play? Not in my opinion. How we would fix this, I’m not sure, but there should be some mechanism.

Inactives also hurt malls a lot. If you claim a shop spot and have gleam club, and a bunch of people do that right next to you, all of a sudden the mall has a dead zone. Less of a big deal, but this still hurts the community.

There should be some way to evict people who have been inactive for 4-6 months.

Can’t help bit feel a change now would probably be a reset

Lol, this turned less about the topic then I had hoped.

Seems instead of ideas or understanding I got reinforcement of the rules.

I constantly pour my effort into a build, upgrading the city, helping everyone I can there trying to make a city the dev’s hoped for when they made a sense of community for this game. Unlike selling plots in eresho that allows holes, I will give them out freely. Eresho is a bad investment we made too, they paid cash to a player so they can have that hole with no questions asked. We on the other hand are dealing with beacons that have no players that burn for eternity that popped in with a steam deal and decided to not play again their first night.

There is no difference between this plot and a gleam and marble mansion.

You may feel that you see a difference but in terms of players’ rights or land management issues they are exactly the same.

Eh in the last post I quoted you complained about people sharing their ideas.

Nobody is trying to shut you up, it’s just not as simple as it looks when you’re staring at something like this and judging it subjectively according to your feelings about the immediate situation.

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While I can understand some of the sentiment and reasons how inactive seems bad to the game as well as your comments about the move of the ULT hub. But, people should also see the other side of things - like those that were active and couldn’t get in because some “active” player plotted 300 plots and made a mint just because they were there first.

So I certainly understand the issues of how inactive hurts things but I also see ways that active creates a have and have not game play.

I’m in a unique position here of being on both sides.

I have been endlessly fueling my plots without playing for a while now, so I have lots of orphans. And, no, I’m not giving them up.

On the flip side, there should be SOMETHING that should be done for disrespectful plots.

By this I mean a giant hole in the ground or refusing to take five minutes to smooth a road so it matches everything around you cough cough new oortia cough.

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I hear you, but there are no time-to-build requirements in this game. I know some people that took almost 12 months on their build. Some people get it done in a couple of days. A lot of us have unfinished projects or ones we haven’t started at all.

It would be odd to say that casual gamers aren’t welcome if they can’t play the way someone else wants them to or if they can’t dedicate X hours a week…maybe they can only dedicate a couple of hours a month? Maybe they got busy helping a guild or something? Who can say? We won’t always know why someone plotted somewhere or what their intentions are. Maybe they just wanted the prime real estate? Is that against the rules? Nah.

If the game adds private planets/clubs/etc then people that want total control and/or to avoid the MMO aspects of the game, might be able to do so.

I miss meeting people for fun & events in Finata…even the devs would meet us there to go do hunts and stuff. Fun times. It was like a central hub for everything. I feel like the game really needs a place like that.

Finata isn’t the only place that had that type of thing happen. Merika got wrecked and never really recovered either…and some recent places too. Again…it all goes back to the plotting system imo.

People often take extended breaks from MMO games…sometimes a year or two. I don’t think a player should be able to take anything away from another player, period. Plus, this game has chosen to tie irl $ to GC/plots. For legal reasons, you can’t just trash something that someone else paid for - they have every right to keep it. If it was on your private planet or in a club, maybe it would be different :woman_shrugging:t3::thinking:

Edit to add…I don’t condone people plotting up a ton of space to block other players or anything like that. It’s not cool for someone to swoop in and plot a bunch of road space and never install roads or what have you…I agree. It would be great if we didn’t have plotting issues like we do, but we do. The game’s fundamental systems run off of GC/plots/etc. It’s fully baked in. :woman_shrugging:t3: I wish it was different.

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100IQ George back at it again :joy: it’ll be like the fake houses in London that have a railway behind them

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Well I understand, but for the sake of this topic I’m trying to nutshell something in many citys where inactive people(6 months+) that have empty deathtraps.

A marble gleam anything is still something, finished or unfinished. You could have plots on every planet like this, but at least your playing, maybe someone can pay you to come cover a hole, make a road over it and get some cash. We have a few builds with inactives that’s been their since I started, I’m just fine with it.

Was hoping for ideas like: beacons are like mailboxes, or we can at least see an email address for pc players.

It dosent need to be extreme. I’m sure that 2x2 plot guy didn’t realize that he effected a whole city. These are depressing to look at everyday for everyone, get in the way of expanding our builds and overall accumulation of these plots kill citys and people quit playing.

Oh man if it was a marble and gleam house… this topic wouldn’t have been written. Spent over a year avoiding the forums and “complaining” about it, I feel I was patient enough.

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Yeah it’s not the first thread like this. Sadly the issues are the same for any type of plot.

When i was new there was a guy posting to the forum about how hard he was trying to get plots, to plot up nice looking spots so that nobody could “Wreck them” by building there.

IDK honestly maybe that guy just loves having a hole. I’ve been thinking about remaking a (nicer version of a) sarlaac I built when i was a noob. Literally just a deathtrap lol.

It’s rough that it’s in your way but without systemic change there’s not really anything to be done. And that has to include the marble mansion ‘ruining’ someone’s theme build, too.

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I can appreciate that you are trying to keep an active community going and would want plots to at least look active. I don’t think people reinforcing or agreeing with three rules is necessarily a bad thing though. The only reason i started boundless was because there was an ensured way to keep what you have, whatever it may be. I wanted a multiplayer sandbox builder etc where i wasnt going to be forced into competing to be allowed to keep my work. Unfortunately, this means that such immunity be extended to each player and that is why i would advocate for the current system.

On the bright side, I actually wish more trolls would plot out 300 sections instead of just 1-2 plots; that way we’d get more permanent planets dropping again :blush:

Right, but you are still under the assumption that this person will be back, or has been back since his day 1.

This topic states it’s about empty deathtraps that have lived over a year without 6+ months that the person has logged in. Special exceptions on personal taste and incomplete builds deviate from said exsample and would not meet the criteria for an easy to fix or this topics goal.

If it’s over a year, he’s been back just long enough to refill.

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I am totally with you on several points, I’m still pointing more at the fact of never started builds, plotted randomly by someone checking out the game and realizing that fortnite is more their forte. A way to get ahold of them or a way to remove after a warning or notice being sent.

No, not really.

Maybe but unless you’re here 24/7 you have no actual, idea about that. Or it could be owned by a rarely played alt of a daily player. It needs fuel.

It could be someone who hasn’t showed up for 6+ months but that means they’ve paid cash for it. That’s really the penultimate “right to retention” anyways.

This right here is exactly what you have/are asking for. There is zero deviation.

I’m not going to stick around any further and hammer the point as I’m sure it’s only adding to your frustration. I guess my primary point is, it’s NOT just you.

At this point, I think you need to chillax, you’re at the point of telling people how their situations aren’t similar and you don’t want to hear what they have to add.

Good luck.

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You can buy years of gleamclub without having to log in.

No one buys the game, plays for a few days. Buys a years worth of GC and then leaves, never to come back.

I can’t be 100% certain, of course, but if dude has been there for 6+ months, most likely he’s been back. He probably has a build somewhere else that he’s saving and the orphan plot is incidental.

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You forgot a few digits. At least I’ve still got these good looks.