Bg3 news ( i still think this should be In General as it has impact on boundless)

You can brush that off all youd like, but its true.

Yeah, sure it is. :wink:

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Sorry man, you are just a troll at this point. I asked you how it is an issue, that some of us still want to enjoy the game (and the forums) and don’t need or want a constant reminder of how bad the situation is and you start talking about censorship :man_shrugging:

@Leahlemoncakes or @Stretchious
Can you close this thread to save us all please :heart:

Touche! As I told someone in private, the lack of coins in the economy has been taken as a challenge for me. At some point in the beginning of the game there was no coins in the economy and as some have pointed out I was more or less using it as a shortcut.

That doesn’t make the game any less fun or really reflect the state of the game so much as the state of the economy. It all depends on your outlook I suppose. You like to focus on the negatives I get it… you want everyone to know the game is dying I get that too … but over and over and over … we have this conversation … I really wish there was something I could do to make you smile or something …

At some point you loved this game and in my opinion you still love the game and just hate the direction the devs took it. Maybe just try and tone it down a little …

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Yeah so from now on I’m gonna ignore the three musketeers who are supposed to represent the non-toxic part of the community, and are either trying to make me pass for the worst person on the forum as I’m causing people to refund the game while I’m just posting a few messages per month :roll_eyes:, or trying to shove my messages in the trash-bin as if that wasn’t censorship, or pretending that my messages here are SO BAD and that they HAVE to read them (you know, because I force people to read my ramblings hidden in the off-topic category) that they need saving from Leah or Stretch, who likely have way better things to do.

I don’t think it’s the direction the devs took the game (although yeah, they focused A LOT on systems and less on content, that was a problem). I think it’s really the direction THEY went as a team.
And like @bucfanpaka would say, it’s actually great for them if their situation is … well I was gonna say “better” but they must be crunching hardcore on BG3. Financially, I suppose it’s better for them because I don’t think they were getting a lot of money from whatever Boundless was making per month with the outfits and sovereign worlds and such.
But still, they kinda made the decision to move in with Larian and sort-of left Boundless as it is.

Cause and effect. People like me get bored and leave. This impacts the economy which then impacts you. At one point, you’re gonna end-up with a solo game, if they don’t shut down the servers first, because from what I remember reading, SquareEnix is maintaining it all at a loss right now.

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While I’ve not always agreed with you I do respect your opinion and feel it is very warranted. I am not going to say that ALL your posts are negative, nor will I say they are unwarranted and truth be told I value the opinion of any players that have played the game for a long time.

I suppose my issues are more to do with the tone of the forums than the actual negative posts in them. Another truth to be told, I am the type of person that finds a new game and goes ALL in. I’ll play it an insane amount of hours in the short time and while it is fun it also makes me burnout. Currently, I find it harder to focus on the projects I wanted to do. It’s not because the game sucks or that the devs aren’t updating it, but its more the fact that I just put in over 3000 hours in 8 months or so.

All in all it’s a matter of preference and perspective and what you look to get out of the game. I could build over and over and over I could craft over and over and over but once you reach that plateau of where there is nothing new to do you eventually will weigh your options. You would do that with or without regular updates sadly. Updates just prolong that a bit, but no update will equal the size of the base game nor change it enough to make it any more fun for anyone at least for an extended amount of time.

I love the game, but that doesn’t mean I won’t eventually get bored with it… even if it had regular updates… it’s just inevitable for everyone. Minecraft is the same way… I’ve done so much with it on numerous levels…there is always some new mod… some new base game update … that makes me say let me go try that. @bucfanpaka mentioned she was playing so I said hey I’ll throw up a modded MC server and play some. Loaded it up couldn’t spend more than an hour in… after I have spent 10k + hours in it I’m sure…it’s just well boring … it’s not the games fault … it’s just me…

Game boredom is just as I said inevitable for everyone … the community can help curb some of that as interacting with others can break up the monotony and grind in some games. But in the end it still winds up the same way.

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So what’s going on in here :joy:… Negativity? Positivity? Pitchforks? Torches?

I don’t see any popcorn! :popcorn:

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While not to the same level, I do a similar thing, but more by phases. Played WoW from July to September because patch 9.1 came out, then burnt out hard and right now I can’t spend more than half-an-hour in it. So I spent a few weeks playing only Valheim with friends because the ‘Hearth & Home’ update came out. Then we reached the point where we saw all the new things from the update (which to be honest isn’t much). Considered going back to Boundless, but then thought “yeah but there’s barely anybody playing anymore”, so I took BG3 and I’m trying to see everything available on EA to have an idea of what it is. I already know I’ll go back to WoW when 9.1.5 comes out, or Valheim when whatever the next update is called comes out. I’ll come back to Boundless when the devs come back too.
When I bought Boundless, I spent an un-godly amount of time. I mean, when you see how fast we built most our place, it wasn’t healthy. ^^

But YES, updates don’t mean you’ll keep playing a game forever. Thouuuuuugh I still think if Boundless had an architecture allowing players to upload custom props and block textures, it would be MADNESS, like “throw that one guy in a bottomless pit while yelling the name of an ancient greek city” MADNESS.
Anyway, there will be an after-Boundless (< whispers a name starting with Hy and ending with Tale >). If the future game is made by James’ team, I’m just not sure I can ever have hope them in the future if after BG3, they don’t come back to Boundless, after ALL the promises.

Instructions on how to be happy: Eat Pie! #salute!

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I do see some pie tho

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@RedY3 was feeding me :joy:

For the same reason that we discuss birthdays and life events in the forum and for some reason, those are not moved to off topic. Seems to be that unless you have something good to say then there is an uproar to close the thread or move it to off topic

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You’re not wrong, but this is where constructive decision theory comes into play and common sense has to be used to make decisions.

One type of post heavily influences the overall moral & tone of the entire forum, is sometimes laced with ulterior motives, usually devolves into personal attacks, and is quite often repeated over and over.

The other type of post does no harm, does not influence the overall tone of the forum and is not repeated.

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I rarely come to the forums, but when I do it’s overwhelming to read through all apparent relevant threads to find out they have nothing to do with the actual thread header. Take this thread post…. It has nothing to do with what content is actually posted inside it.

I was not attacking anyone specific- but some people take it upon themselves to find a way to take it on like a freight train haha. Debates are healthy - useless unrelated topics and forum threads that are not relevant to the game on the game forum seems more like a chance to deface a good core game. I was raised to be respectful- listen to others- but what is happening on this forum is going to be the reason boundless will die. Bad publicity, negative emotional forum threads from people that either don’t play anymore or have some kind of grief with the devs because the game isn’t been worked on whilst they focus on new venture will be the reason new players will never buy or support this game. Steam already has bad reviews, forums are filled with trash comments- all I was suggesting to the general public was do we really need to keep this charade up when we could be cleaning up the forums so it’s inviting to new and old players?

Just food for thought- wish you all the best /salute

Yeah, that’s definitely something we should be doing. But not to the extent that we put out a disingenuous or dishonestly rose-tinted illusion of where the game is. I often look into a game’s forum to get a feel for what the game is about.

If I find a forum that is overwhelmingly negative (btw, Boundless forum is not that), it goes on the “check back in six months” list, to see if things got better, because right now it’s either as terrible as the forums suggest, or the dev’s have more important things to do than moderate their forums. I don’t discount such games, because look at No Mans Sky. Was a s***-show at launch, devs went quiet fixing things, and it got good.

If I find the forum is gushingly positive, it also goes straight on the “check back in six months” list, because right now whoever is moderating the forums is clearly just wallpapering over any cracks they don’t want visitors to see. No forum is that positive, and no game that good or well suited to every player. Something is clearly amiss, so I just need to give it time to show.

It takes some negative opinions (which I can use to actually judge whether I’ll like the game, and whether those negatives will affect me) and some passion from people who believe the game could be better to give any real overview as to where a game is. And I’m no special snowflake, so if I think that way, chances are good that plenty of other people do too.

Just food for thought.

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Is the charade trying to convince new players to pick up an unfinished game, where the publisher has stated the game is not even covering its running costs? Or a charade to talk about these facts instead of misleading potential players? How is it bad to inform a prospective player that is looking to pick up a game where the trailers are filled with missing features and that development has essentially stopped for an undetermined time of what is really and factually going on? Personally I would rather know what is really going on with a game before I waste money and time.

I am all for keeping the discussion civil and not allowing players to make personal attacks. But to prevent entire topics from being discussed that are relevant to the games future or hiding them in off topic, seems dishonest to me. It is not like new players are not going to find out and quite frankly, all we get are more bad reviews on steam and other places where a lot of people go for information before buying a game. If potential players at least understand what is really going on with game instead of not finding out until after they spend their money, do we reduce the number of new bad reviews? Do we buy time for the developers to maybe pick up and finish the last release after the work on BG3 is done before trying to bring in new players that are just going to be dissatisfied?

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I agree with everything you have mentioned :heart:. I think everyone took my original message the wrong way hahaha.

My issue is that if you create a forum thread keep it relevant to the subject and the game the forum was designed for ect- if you create a forum thread called great job on updates devs- your just asking for toxicity- instead why not create a thread called what we want from the devs or player wish list for improvements.

If you wanna discuss BG3 head over to that site… I’m tired or viewing topics not related to boundless in a forum designed for boundless players. Being transparent with where the game is absolutely fine, players just need to be respectful and get a life when it comes to attacking the game or devs for taking on a project that ideally helps them grow as developers.

On that note- I won’t be back to the forums, so no need for anyone to continue off the back of my message. Be bold be boundless :heart: ya all

Post this on Steam and all the other social platforms see how it’s taken. “Filled with missing features” as in 100’s of missing features… “Unfinished game” where you play it for 5 days and can’t do anything else… all about perspective and how you want your audience to perceive it.

The game was finished to me when I first tried it. Didn’t know about the “missing” titans and all the other 100’s of missing things until I came here. Feels as finished as it could be to me honestly…

Honestly, its not the negative posts that bother me, its the continuous STRESSING of the SAME damn thing.

I’m tired of the back and forth between us all … so I’m just done with the forums and I’ll be in the shadows…yet again… PM me if you need me.

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Hey, I’ve been away from the forums a bit, is there a source on this one?

I know this is a little off-topic, but I don’t know where else to ask.