BoundlessTrade.Net ..... What do you think?

Wha… Lying is not the only way to communicate…

I mean it’s been at the top of the forum for 2 days straight. I feel like it’s gotten enough of an announcement. Also it’s not affiliated with boundless so I’m not sure why they would promote it.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a game go to this extent to promote a mod. I can’t imaging wonderstruck will either.

I’m very much looking forward to this change and personally believe it to be a very positive change overall.

because people complain about problems, but dont provide a solution other than an official API or in-game tool. Bottom line is wonderstruck is not involved with this tool, and I’m looking for ideas on how to improve it given that fact as a baseline. This site and client will be happening regardless of any player’s opinion. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to hear anyone’s opinion. People may still have better ideas than what I’ve thought of. I’m just informing you of the reality of how the future will be unfolding soon.

I don’t work for or speak for the devs. I don’t want to mis-communicate their perspective here. I did ask for permission to put the bot on the discord, but that doesn’t mean that wonderstruck recommends all their players should use it. It’s just a helpful tool that I feel COULD POSSIBLY be useful to a large number of people.

Besides the fact that this is directly insulting/flaming someone, are you’re saying communicating the desire to close the thread is ironic? can you elaborate on this, I’m confused. I don’t think falsely stating someone’s motivations means they have cognitive dissonance. I’m so confused sorry :frowning:. It might be good to take a step back and re-read your stuff before you post. It sounds more like you’re trying to win an argument by any means necessary and less like you’re trying to help people.

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You might need to read up again. I think his comment raised a valid point, then you insulted him.

I never said it was.

Insulting people is not a personality type.

that… is insulting… laughing at someone for failing is insulting… It’s even more insulting if the failure is a lie.

I will continue responding to you. And nothing you say will ever change that. Feel free to ask other people on this forum!

So you know that I know that I have this data already. Which means there’s a misunderstanding between us that you are capable of identifying. A quick read up clearly shows that I asked for the coordinates of the specific shop-stand/basket that disappeared. I can repeat it here for you.

May I please have the specific coordinates of the shopstand/basket you feel was incorrectly removed so that I can investigate the specific shop-stand? I will not be reviewing every single shop-stand within 100 blocks of your shop. I don’t have time for that. I have no record of what changes you’ve made to your shop (if any). And I won’t need to care about changes to your shop if you give me the coordinates.

Again your response with information you’ve stated I already know comes off to me as a refusal to provide the correct information. I feel like you’re just trying to create chaos here and nothing else.

I’m happy to help if you provide the info, but if you continue not to, I will continue to let you know that the point you’ve made that depends on that issue is unfounded.

Again. Let me know if you can think of a way to solve this issue without wonderstruck involvement. I’m happy to listen. Otherwise the tool/site will go up using the currently described functionality.

Okay, now you’re taking the ■■■■!

The COORDINATES ARE THERE! Copied straight from your own website!

Excuse me? What now? So you’re now fully admitting that you might omit data of some shops?

You got to be kidding me here!

Indeed, it’s not, I didn’t, clearly you are now tho…

I didn’t insult him, I’m very surprised that you did not see his post to me as being toxic tho.

That is not insulting, clearly you have an odd definition of that.

What IS insulting tho is accusing me of lying while your own db is showing the truth…

I’m sorry Simoyd but you are way too defensive here, seeing things that aren’t there, making things bigger than they had to be. you’re also clearly not seeing the behaviour you are yourself showing in your replies which is a crying shame.

Thinking that the tool is so great that you just need to silence anyone with questions about it is wee bit of cognitive dissonance.

I’m not going to point by point the less personal parts of your post. It’s clear that wonderstruck can’t officially support this in it’s current state but it’s broadcasting onto official servers. I hope that somebody is looking into that.

Your stance and more aggressive comments clarify that this is,. in fact, economic extortion.

i haven’t found any point where I’ve made any factually false assertions here and I’ve pointed out several times that someone’s excitement can sometimes take their otherwise positive intent past the point of good sense.

But really here you (and other people who are currently publishing to the tool) are getting nasty again and again. More than one person probably needs a step back right now.

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And…we are now here…

That’s subjective and debatable.

I think people often use personal examples when trying to communicate. I don’t see anyone here as personally affronted.

No you just have a very high density of communication gaps (which takes two people and both are equally responsible) and lies (all you bud).

such an explaination does not exist as nobody actually knows it yet. It’s still being worked on.

I think it’s a good sign knowing that it’s not complete and will be better once people have had a chance to actually complete it.

PS4 is a no-go without wonderstruck support. I will not be holding back the use of this site/client due to this. It doesn’t matter how many people ask me not to do it for this reason.

Wonderstruck is not working on this at all right now. They may at some point in the future, but I will not be holding back the use of this site/client to wait for them. In fact this site/client will certainly die once they implement something. It is meant to fill the gap temporarily (and before people jump on some crazy bandwagons this is certainly not it’s only purpose). It doesn’t matter how many people ask me not to do it for this reason, it’s still happening.

Regarding both of these, I’ve tried to provide work-arounds and am open to hear if people have more ideas on how to improve this for various groups.

Everyone has access to see shop prives in-game. If someone has a nice idea for the discord, then let the mods know and we can add something. Everyone has the same privilege. What exactly is the abuse here?

attacking and defending are the two sides of a debate. both sides are attackers and both sides are defenders. That does not make anything toxic in and of itself.

lying on the other hand is pretty darn toxic

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Idk how else anyone is supposed to respond to some of these posts other than with a yawn. There’s some weak accusatory rhetoric that generally wouldn’t be welcome from anyone, honestly.

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I could make a comment about why that is but am sure many here can come to that conclusion all by themselves.

rofl why does that matter. Is he not allowed to state his opinion unless he’s affiliated with someone?

I’ve provided 3 ways to do that. If you can think of any more without wonderstruck involvement, please let me know.

Players are allowed to write down shop stand prices and send them to whoever they want. Wonderstruck has to approve nothing here, although to be clear if they asked me to stop I would immediately.

I’d really like to see this thread get to feedback on the actual implementation of this work in progress. Good constructive feedback. Ways PS4 players such as myself can not be left out…

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That was never the intent of this thread though. OP jumped the gun, really.

This statement was made in response to two points. One is subjective, and the other is debatable if you really like to argue semantics between “live” and “released”.

That’s what we’re doing here so totally agreed.

Really man because you seem very angry, and also a couple of other folks. You’re calling me a liar and I’m personally affronted lol.

Speaking of which:

Can you please tell me what you are talking about, and why you keep calling me a liar?

I mean again deflecting and repeating and lying. I can’t help ya bud. I’ve already spoken to everything you’ve said in this post. Maybe scroll up to the first time you’ve said each thing and see what I said again. Let me know if there’s something you think I can help ya with.

Can you add a manual entry option to the website perhaps?

  1. those do not work for people who have no idea this exists
  2. if you have no one near you who’se on PC then that ‘solution’ doesn’t work
  3. the request button means that it’s only being scanned every 2 days so is not a solution for up to date data
  4. stating that it helps to get scanned faster and more often if you have a PS shopping portal is well, do I really need to spell that out for you?

Why dont you start bringing solutions to attack the problem. That’s how problems are fixed. Bring your ideas to the table, there is a way to get everyone included. But with the playstation platform itself, a lot of red tape is involved

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Holy cow!

I’ve posted the bloody coordinates now twice already!

You seem to be deliberately ignoring that! And accusing me of lying to boot. I really don’t get your behaviour about this at all, I really do not.

But hey, here, for the 3rd damn time, the coords:
Gellis
-152, 241, 67

Why do YOU keep insulting me? Why do you keep repeating that I’m lying and then lie about that I’m not giving you the coordinates? What is this BS?

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@Simoyd I’m slightly shocked no one has even realized that you said only ps members have the tool right now. Would have thought it would have been better in hands of others that have been around a long time to that aren’t just ps players that you know as well. But hey corner it with your own guild people that’s cool. Also someone mentioned about donating $50 to help development etc but in actuality I think I’d rather donate to this not ever being released :joy:. And this whole post is actually starting to turn me off of boundless. Also makes me want to close up shop n my farms(no shops no money to buy Oort therefore no portals)

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Sucks seeing people passionate about this game go round in circles. Might I suggest a few deep breaths and talk about it again in a few days?

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You have access to the same data the scanners do, by using boundlesstrade.net though. Are you saying you want to be listed on the site?