Firstly, I’m not saying it IS pay to win as you can’t really get winning an advantage in something that you can’t finish/win. However, if RNG shines nicely on you there is certainly an advantage in having Sovereigns and you could in theory get ahead quicker than someone that isn’t. I also appreciate that I got lucky and I could have spent 10x as much and got only planets comparible with existing t6.
I love my Sovereign and am back playing the game with enjoyment. I’m not picking on the devs or the update…I love it. I am merely curious on the communicatires thoughts and fancied discussing it, especially as the game appears to lean strongly against p2w mechanics.
This was just to discuss the advantages and my curiosity with it. My view is that if you can pay 9.99, get a good roll and then keep a world private you can indeed get a world that is better (in resources) than anything someone who doesn’t have a Sovereign can get. I have three worlds, two of which are ok and one that has a pretty good % of sapphire. The benefit is that it is in one HUGE yellow patch. Yesterday in one hour I got well over 3000 sapphire. I can’t think of anywhere else that its possible to get. As an added bonus there is also a very abundant supply of Bitter beans.
Does this add an element of pay to win to the game- in the context thats possible for a sandbox?
FYI- I Already had a “high” gold count before the Sovereign and my world is also public so have no intention of using it to my advantage etc etc.
I’m waiting a while to see if we’re going to see/need publicly voted color farming worlds. It occurs to me that I could manually do that exo color shrine idea I posted a while back. Just use donation baskets and manually determine the average color donated.
The thing that makes me most sad about this update… I’m hardly even excited for the new exos that pop up now i hope all the anti-color-rarity people are satisfied now because they’re getting tons of new colors, while those of us who want rarity now have nothing rare to look forward to except for some liquid and goo…
Yeah i think hes mostly talking aobut resources and not color here, i see what he means. Some planet can have really good density compared to an other one.
I suppose it depends on your point of view about what exactly you think p2w really means (and given bit’s I’ve read here on the forum, that could be damned near anything).
For me, p2w means paying to get something that other people cannot also get if they chose to invest their time instead of their money. Because they could get more gems with more time I’d say no, definitely not p2w.
It’s vaguely hypothetically p2w. If someone somehow got black gleam and kept their planet locked. But I’m sure within 10 minutes someone would make a public one.
I am mainly referring to the ability (with RNG help) to get a planet of your own, that has significantly more of a resource e.g. diamond than a person without a sovereign could access in a nutshell
As per the last reply, the colours aren’t an issue because everyone immediately gets them, however there’s 1 person with a diamond sovereign world that has 1.5% diamond and i have been to another with pretty much endless mould. This planet allows about 15k green orbs an hour. Nobody else could get near to that.
Thats why I think this pushes things slightly towards p2w
Edit:
As these stand they are the exception caused by RNG, however if everyone only keeps those RNG wins and keeps them private it can significantly improve those peoples ability to gain coin
but other people with cash can get them to so no problem here
i dont see huge problem but im not the one to say ive been here to long to worry about items
I’ve always been okay with not having all the colors. I think the colors coming over multiple years of this games life cycle made it exciting. For me it’s “this will ruin the rarity market until they add more rare items”
im really curious how they are going to replace this rarity thing… cause it always was the colors…
now not so much. there has to be some new stuff on horizont.
I hope they come up with something soon. I’m disappointed that so many new colors came so incredibly quick, and if someone wants a specific gleam color they can just buy a world with gleam spheres on it and get an inventory full of it in 30 minutes. And then once a month they can switch it to a new color? I feel like the devs gave up too much of the rarity. Absolutely needs something new soon before a lot of people who aren’t primarily builders start getting bored.