I do want to clarify my point since some took it incorrectly. If people start respecting both views (which I am seeing some of) then the topic stays in public. If people continue to be rude and dismissive of another party on this forum I will go private with them and help them find a vehicle to share their views.
I have said this before that people just need to allow people to share views and not shut them down. Have the conversation… if people do this we all get to play. But, it isn’t fair to cause threads to be closed (which has happened) because some people don’t like the idea.
If the idea has merit there will be discussion… if not it will die on the vine. All this fighting is keeping it alive longer.
Different questions would help, yeah. Although, getting input about how to deal with a wipe when it hasn’t even been decided if we need one could definitely lead people to view you as biased in favor of the wipe. I get that there are other good reasons to assume it will happen and look into mitigating any backlash it might cause, but presenting that view in itself would probably bring suspicion from others.
Normally, I’d even agree with the idea that players have no say in wether or not a game world gets wiped for development reasons; but boundless players have unfortunately entered into an agreement where they pay to keep their builds protected. That makes this an ethical and legal issue separate from peoples’ feelings. It depends heavily on what was promised and what the paperwork says.
I understand that dev work needs to be viewed in the way you’re describing, but there may be legal reasons why that can’t be approached ideally.
Having a discussion is what were having now I do see a need for a discussion if someone has plans to erase what has taken me a year to build of course I need a lot more then a “Maybe it might fix things.” SO again change my mind. What will this do for me as a long term supporting player positively? No mights or maybes just tangible things that might convince me. If you or others cant give me and others here that then its really just a troll isnt it?
You skipped where I said I don’t want to change your mind.
You skipped where you were asked how can we problem solve.
Why are you missing these things? No one wants to wipe. We want to problem solve underlying issues that cause people to ask for a wipe or feel that that’s the reason for a wipe.
You said those things I listed could easily be solved. Ok. Please help provide these easy solutions.
Easiest solution I have advocated since I started here “IN GAME GMs” you need a referee when you have a territorial game like this. Adding game mechanics that fall short or even create worse problems are killing the game for folks when a GM could clearly resolve these issues.
You’re speaking of 1 issue. That’s not what this discussion has been about. The plot thing just got thrown in because it’s a live example of, if things are kept the same with the buffer system not being changed from where we are today. If it was fixed then its no longer a concern but then you still have a myriad of other things being discussed.
I do agree GM’s would be a great addition to the game to help deal with ‘poo’ so devs don’t have to waste time on it, but is that really an easy solution if they don’t have the budget for it? We don’t even have a community manager. James deals with the majority of it himself.
I specifically put out a reason regarding the broken economy, abuse of strip mining forged tools and how using new exo planets as perma planets would help in rectifying those perceived problems. A wipe would reset all those hoarded materials and how i see a wipe being the only way to rectify these issues, and as a result fix a broken economy and give reasons for people to buy things instead of just go out and strip-mine hoard. When you said ‘these are easy to fix without wiping’ (paraphrased) I assumed you had some thoughts on how to do so. Was that sentiment just focused on GM’s fixing plot issues?
Your issues arent issues at all anyone can go mine anyone can get those resources what abuse? You mean people getting there first before you? The economy is not broke I run a shop it does very well a wipe is not a solution maybe you need tutelage? Same with those talking about the Forge it works fine theres a learning curve but its easy once you get it (unless you have a bad rng day). I guess Im pretty happy with the game in most aspects but the one I see most harmful is territorial issues that could easily be remedied.
I have heard the whole budget argument so youre saying a coders time cost less than a GMs lmao come on .
It’s been stated before forged tools were used by the player base in ways the devs didn’t plan/count on. I could go dig through dev posts if that’s what you need me to do.
No, I’m often one of those first people. I sold stupid amounts of umbris for 800-1k a piece.
Ok. I can see where this is going now.
I have 40+ 3x3 hammers just sitting there waiting for the day I need to strip mine more. I just dont have that need, because as I’ve stated a few times now 3x3 strip mining allows a player to just gather stupidly immense amount of materials reducing the need to participate in an economy.,
Then why don’t we have a GM/community manager? I just made a comment
It’s almost as if you are intentionally trying to be combative with things. It’s unreal. You still haven’t proposed any solutions, so you clearly had no intent to add any discussion. This is now obvious. Thanks for being clear about it,
Do GMs even get paid? I was under the impression most do it for free in their spare time. We definitely could use some GMs that handle some of the fodder though.
I did propose a solution thanks. And if you do all the above then why do you think somethings broke youre losing me here.Now Bomb minning was certainly Overpowered and ridiculous Aoe hammers dont compare.
Sure sounds like you want everyone to be equal in everything… This is not a socialist society, sorry. Those of us who busted our backs carving out something in the Boundless Universe during the past year have EARNED it…
Whether that be a huge mall, a Portal Hub connecting the Universe, a city, a mine, a warehouse that might rival an Amazon Distribution Center, ETC, it does not matter… WE BUILT IT! We did WHAT IT TOOK to achieve our Goals… I am sorry that some players are less fortunate…But hey Guess What? If you Bust Your Ass for a Year in this game YOU can be the SAME… EARN IT.
As my high school football Coach David Lantz once said: “Hard Work and Determination Guarantees NOTHING, BUT A LACK OF IT DOES…”
Hm you’re right, im sure some of us would volunteer though to help out. The problem then becomes how much power do they get. May be easier for the devs to handle it. Just seems a bit overwhelming for their small team.
Venom, I would gladly volunteer some time to help GM the game …I am sure alot of us would… No need for money…but if it is some legal thing where they have to compensate I say pay me in Cubits! lol ! Not quite Peanuts haha
I will simply not understand this selfishness you guys are displaying. I have point blank said I do not want to wipe. Others have as well.
No one has asked for equal everything. Not once, it’s amusing you two are doing this argument.
These are perceived problems being talked about. Why have neither of you offered up a solution to a perceived problem.
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This game is not retaining players. There are a host of reasons for it. We can either discuss things civilly and work together or you guys can just enjoy your small little sandbox playground that’s not going to get the traction it should because you are helping to hold it back.
I would take my payment in the form of a shadow colored gleam exo (not shadow yellow please). I can farm it myself. Just need them to hit the button to spawn it lol.
(not shadow yellow please). I can farm it myself. Just need them to hit the button to spawn it lol.