Explaining Footfall post Release 211

XxymoxX · 2019-01-31T20:12:46.179Z

All I have to say is:

10 PRINT CHR$ (205.5 + RND (1)); : GOTO 10

Salvatory · 2019-01-31T20:22:28.937Z

Pokes were funny… I made a fake loader for a game a friend wanted… count down and everything… looked totally like it was a premium speccy game booting up trollllllll

Elsiekelsie · 2019-01-31T20:36:07.927Z

Footfall has suddenly dropped again for me over the last two days. It was almost getting back to the level it was pre-patch and now it’s back down to about 50% again.

scrufola · 2019-02-01T21:44:28.214Z

Today my test char has primary guild G1, no permissions. And is a member of G2, no permissions. The test char walks onto a beacon aligned to G2. Again, no footfall is generated.

Guilds are completely useless because they prevent footfall.

Lets assume you run a mall and assign the main beacon to a guild. Now, many people who have a shop in that mall are a member of that guild. You most like will get puny footfall. @majorvex, did you try to not align the streets in the gyosha mall to a guild?

Arkhainn · 2019-02-01T21:56:11.986Z

did you test what happens when they first enter a non-guild beacon, before stepping into the guild-aligned ones?

scrufola · 2019-02-01T22:36:35.496Z

Arkhainn:

did you test what happens when they first enter a non-guild beacon, before stepping into the guild-aligned ones?

Created new character X
X Joined guild Test, no permissions
X walks onto beacon BY1 of char Y, beacon is not aligned with any guild. X has no permission on BY1.
X walks onto beacon BY2 of char Y, beacon is aligned with guild Test.
BY1 and BY2 both had 0 footfall.

Arkhainn · 2019-02-01T22:57:40.282Z

scrufola:

Created new character X

X Joined guild Test, no permissions

X walks onto beacon BY1 of char Y, beacon is not aligned with any guild. X has no permission on BY1.

X walks onto beacon BY2 of char Y, beacon is aligned with guild Test.

BY1 and BY2 both had 0 footfall.

That sounds super weird. Can any devs confirm that this is intended behavior? @james ?

Fiffer13 · 2019-02-01T23:50:05.375Z

scrufola:

Created new character X

X Joined guild Test, no permissions

X walks onto beacon BY1 of char Y, beacon is not aligned with any guild. X has no permission on BY1.

X walks onto beacon BY2 of char Y, beacon is aligned with guild Test.

BY1 and BY2 both had 0 footfall.

I am assuming both beacons have greater than 10k prestige? and the character checking is the owner of the beacon, not an alt with permissions?

scrufola · 2019-02-02T00:01:41.555Z

Fiffer13:

I am assuming both beacons have greater than 10k prestige?

Yes, and both are in the same settlement.

Fiffer13:

and the character checking is the owner of the beacon, not an alt with permissions?

Yes.

Fiffer13 · 2019-02-02T00:08:09.044Z

ok just covering the bases there, I hope someone can confirm the results and get back with you

majorvex · 2019-02-02T00:24:36.835Z

scrufola:

@majorvex, did you try to not align the streets in the gyosha mall to a guild?

No. The mall/roads are on a single beacon. After the Guild update and after the prestige reached city status, the settlement generated a “greater settlement” which I named The Gyosha Syndicate, and is warden of itself…even though I am still the warden. There is no beacon for the greater settlement and it has the #1 prestige. Not sure how or if I can regain control or if it matters. I tried re-plotting the whole mall to get everyone on the Gyosha Syndicate prestige settlement, but that was in vain, so I dunno.

scrufola · 2019-02-02T13:18:09.669Z

The roads in the Gyosha Mall are owned by the char majorvex and the beacon is aligned to the guild TGS.
If my tests are correct, the character majorvex cannot gain footfall on any beacon anywhere inside the greater settlement Gyosha Syndicate from anyone who is a member of TGS, even if he is not representing TGS.

On a different note, since 213 my footfall is about 50% of what it was before the update. On multiple locations on different planets.

Arkhainn · 2019-02-03T20:57:42.870Z

I think I see what may be happening. I think they finally disabled alts generating footfall in beacons owned by the same account.

Edit: Scratch that, my alt must have been under the 1 day cooldown. It worked with a fresh beacon

Krollbar · 2019-02-03T23:20:04.314Z

So after all these updates are noteworthy beacons still running at 50% or is the new and improved footfall starting to level off with happier numbers?

FireAngelDth · 2019-02-03T23:22:22.830Z

Iirc I thought that guild aligned beacons weren’t generating footfall for people that stepped on the land if they were in the guild. So my question to you is are your beacons aligned to a big guild?

Ark · 2019-02-03T23:26:06.520Z

My understanding is the only time a character will not generate footfall is if they have permissions on the beacon. This is regardless of guilds.

EDIT: (Or, of course, if they return to the beacon within 24 hours of last payment…)

Ark · 2019-02-03T23:27:18.707Z

High-volume beacon owners are reporting about 90% of pre-211 Footfall, while lower-volume beacon owners are all reporting sizable increases.

Unciviled · 2019-02-03T23:29:03.317Z

I own a mall and increase in foot traffic daily. I am getting close to pre 211. around 90%. Its picking up slowly

FireAngelDth · 2019-02-03T23:30:32.088Z

Guess I’ll have to go find the post because some one tested it and I could have sworn it was only aligned

Arkhainn · 2019-02-03T23:53:58.377Z

FireAngelDth:

Guess I’ll have to go find the post because some one tested it and I could have sworn it was only aligned

Relevant posts (in this topic) in order of oldest to newest, and yes it was only aligned. Very weird behavior, I don’t think it should work like that… at least not for aligned beacons. Guild-owned sorta makes a little bit of sense.

Explaining Footfall post Release 211 Devlog

I tried to test something similar. Char A has two beacons in a settlement, Test A1 and Test A2. Both above 10k prestige. Beacon Test A1 is aligned with a guild, Test A2 is not. I made a new character and joined the guild without touching either A1 or A2 (book is in the same settlement on a different chars beacon). The new character didn’t get any permissions in the guild. If the new character enters A1 (aligned with guild) no coins are generated. If the char then enters A2 (not aligned with gui…

Explaining Footfall post Release 211 Devlog

Tested again with the “Poles, Beams and Letter boxes!” update. Guild member walks onto guild aligned beacon (no permissions at all) -> no footfall. Non-guild member walks onto guild aligned beacon -> footfall.

Explaining Footfall post Release 211 Devlog

Today my test char has primary guild G1, no permissions. And is a member of G2, no permissions. The test char walks onto a beacon aligned to G2. Again, no footfall is generated. Guilds are completely useless because they prevent footfall. Lets assume you run a mall and assign the main beacon to a guild. Now, many people who have a shop in that mall are a member of that guild. You most like will get puny footfall. @majorvex, did you try to not align the streets in the gyosha mall to a guild?