Forging prices

I no longer have coin to keep buying forgers out. :sweat_smile: otherwise I would. Paid for builds instead of hammers(plus I still have an excessive amount of hammers to use)

When the one that I was initially given broke, I started looking for another. I couldn’t afford the prices, so I spent the next month just gathering the supplies to make the gums, pastes, and boon things myself and then sat down with the centraforge and made my own.
Now all the AoE stuff I use, I make myself.

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The thing about ā€˜low prices being bought out so supply can’t keep up’ doesn’t really work that well in the boundless market. The market itself is so small one individual can drastically change prices of a good if they dedicate themselves to it. For example, if I went back to playing boundless like when I did what, 5-7 hunts a day and used all that time solely on forging, I prob could supply the whole T6 hammer demand at whatever low price I wanted.

Do I want to? No. Profits will be so low for it to be worth my time and sanity loss from the bs RNG the forge will throw at me. Heck, even if it was highly profitable, I doubt I’d be forging that much a day. I already don’t advertise my shop so forged goods won’t sell, allowing me less forging done. Seems I’m not the only one who hopes for LESS sales due to how pain in the ass forging is. Price competitions on top of that just makes it worse.

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You could forge 24/7 and probably not do this.

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Yeah in my peak I made 500 tool every day and didn’t satisfy the demand :sweat_smile: The thing with forging prices is that the raw ingredient price is only half of the equation. The other half comes from the time and rng management/frustration. It’s also very hard to really know how many ingredients on average your method uses, since even at a sample size of 1000 the results vary a bit. And no sane forger is going to record 1000 forges once, much less multiple times. I did it by bootstrapping a script to automate the forge simulator :expressionless:

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I miss your forge store…:sob:

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MOAR MAKE MOAR

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Wow I’m amazed that my hammers are found in the wild after so long :smiley: Guess I did make quite a few… I would’ve continued for longer if raw materials were more reliable to source, I didn’t have enough coin to keep my buffers filled. My factory has about 10 million worth of stuff in it and would’ve required double that to keep it running smoothly. But in the end burnout would’ve caught me even if materials were endless :slight_smile:

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Well, I basically quit last June. I have a few of your hammers and a few from Einnos too.

I’ve been playing more the last few weeks though and these farming hammers burn up FAST when you do any starberry/regen farming.

EDIT: I also have a LOT of these:

R.I.P. Girl.

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I stocked up when they were all 5k ish I think… and have not run out yet =)

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:sweat: I felt bad for how many I was buying. I only have a few of them left though!

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I still have some of your hammers around, and until you come back and start making more they are not going to be used and are just going to sit in cold storage, I had to find other people to forge more of them for me as I found it very nice for my general purpose hammer.

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well, it is only about 55 forges, prob could do 100+ a day pumping out about 1k hammers if I sat there doing nothing but forging. But that’s not taking my sanity into account :joy:

and there’s also less demand since then from what I see with a lot of people taking extended breaks…

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Not everyone uses the forums tho and there are people who will go thru stacks every day that they play

I am now also researching my own hammers for T6, as I need a huge amount per day. I even now have so many that I could sell them, but not less than 15,000 coins each and the price would be plus or minus zero. Although I follow the guide in the forum step by step, I am unlucky and need up to 100 attempts per stack hammer. And that’s why I keep it to myself and who knows, my guild, which currently consists of 2 players, will also be bigger - but I definitely won’t get such sick prices as 4500 coins per T6 hammer and never will

Depending on which method you are using depend if it can really do a ss. The one method vansteen posted with using corrupt(which is an expensive method) is really only meant for 4 or 5 at a time. It’s not very good at doing a ss. There’s a few Pure methods out there and those can do ss and are cheaper methods as well but the rng is a little worse on that than the corrupt method

So far I have only found this expensive method. In addition, I don’t speak English and have to use the Google Translator. And even for this method it took me a good 1 year to understand it. I find absolutely no cheaper methods here in the forum.

For sure, some days I did 1000, some 1500, but keeping that up every day for a long period isn’t easy, getting the materials to do it and keeping your sanity is hard :smiley: Half of the time is spent away from the forge, working the factory and shop, buying resources. You need to manage crafting all the items, 500 a day means burning through 10+ ss of forge ingredients every day and ofc the 500 tools as well. It requires running about 25 different recipes day and night, keeping the machines fed is also a challenge.

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You can burn up the 2 gum forge (no speed/dura) in a fast brew so I guess you could use maybe 50/60 of these a day. A couple more?

The method in the guide is very basic. It gets the job done, but better/cheaper/more sane methods are usually kept private to most forgers that they came up with themselves or learnt it through other forgers - it is a trade secret of sorts after all. Even after getting used to forging stuff, I still tinkered around in the forge simulator to refine/improve methods or come up with new ones.

Generally, the ā€˜cheaper’ goods use more pure compounds as they’re far cheaper, and less pastes/catalysts/solvents, or none if possible, as those are the expensive ingredients. The ā€˜better’ or ā€˜max forge’ goods are the opposite; they use more pastes/catalysts/solvents, and mix in other, or even multiple kinds of compounds to maximize the number of rolls. Heck, there’s even an infamous method often used for max forges that easily go past round 300 to forge one item at a time.

One good example would be how I forge grapples. I’ve got two different methods, one that’s completely pasteless and far cheaper, and another that uses pastes to add 2 more rounds of compound rolls for when I want to make max range grapples for myself or to hand out.

While you could learn the methods from others, I still recommend playing around with the forge simulator. There’s some things that come with experience like what to expect at times when using some ingredients that makes forge outcomes more reliable.