How much is prestige of each deco sedimentary rock?

[Nightstar]

@Saint-X

you always get this prestige amount, you cant drop under the base value

This is not true. If you use too many of the same block type, you continue to receive less and less prestige. It can go down to fractional points, but is now always positive.

In the original (release) system you could go to negative prestige.

[Saint-X]

@Nightstar

In the original (release) system you could go to negative prestige.

for a short time it was possible to get negative with ancient corruption yes in the real early version, but this was long before

@Nightstar

This is not true. If you use too many of the same block type, you continue to receive less and less prestige. It can go down to fractional points, but is now always positive.

and no you cant drop under the base prestige, still with 100k block and nothing else you will get the base prestige
as example i have here a big plot with 4800 sedi brick and i get 18 prestige per block and base prestige is 9

[Nightstar]

@Saint-X

for a short time it was possible to get negative with ancient corruption yes in the real early version, but this was long before

This was true in release, easily with soils and being overbuilt so going negative on the old “built space” category when it was still shown in the debugger.

October 2018:

Blocks giving minus prestige?

there is no such thing as a negative prestige block. But prestige is based on the “base prestige” (sum of prestige of blocks) + a bonus percentage based on various other parameters which may become worse due to adding a particular block. so whilst the block doesnt have a negative prestige, adding it may cause the bonus to decrease so that the final prestige does go down.

Regarding the new system:

Prestige Balance in Testing 218

No block has 0 prestige with changes. If you spam the same block 1,000,000 times it will be giving you less and less prestige each time, but never get to 0 (may get so low that you have to add the block 100 times to get an extra 1 prestige since each one is now only giving you 0.01 prestige or something, but never 0). And of course, if you then worked to balance the block variation the prestige would start increasing faster again as all those blocks that previously gave less prestige due to the…

@FayaAOP is getting less than 1 prestige per deco stone block on some of his pyramids now.

[Saint-X]

@Nightstar

Regarding the new system:

Prestige Balance in Testing 218 Devlog

No block has 0 prestige with changes. If you spam the same block 1,000,000 times it will be giving you less and less prestige each time, but never get to 0 (may get so low that you have to add the block 100 times to get an extra 1 prestige since each one is now only giving you 0.01 prestige or something, but never 0). And of course, if you then worked to balance the block variation the prestige would start increasing faster again as all those blocks that previously gave less prestige due to the…

@FayaAOP is getting less than 1 prestige per deco stone block on some of his pyramids now.

I build a pyramide too with 100k concrete (28x28plot size) and i had more as base prestige after set up all concrete, i am sure he got more as 1 prestige per block

[Nightstar]

It seems I can demonstrate this for you if you want to visit my farm on kol huroo.

You can see the black concrete I added between screen shots.

[Saint-X]

is this marble in the beacon ? and you know that the calculations needs some time for refesh ?
but we are now far away from topic and i stop here now, more discusion over pm

[Nightstar]

They’re supposed to be real time but now I’m leaving it there because it doesn’t seem like I should be at that low of a threshold.

Still it does definitely happen and there’s a dev saying it can go as low as 1/100 of a point per block.

@Lucadeltodecso?

Also after a minute or so of leaving the block in place it did give me more than base prestige on this beacon. At this size it must take a moment to recalculate and I’m not usually watching prestige so closely so you’re definitely right about that.

That’s good I didn’t think I was that out of balance here there is quite a bit of block variety

[xyberviri]

@Saint-X

thats not correct, using low prestige blocks give no extra.

Prestige Weighting: This works in tandem with the above Prestige buckets. Since realistically a build will tend to use a lot of lower value blocks (woods & stone etc.) rather than a castle of Diamond, we have made sure the ideal “spread” of prestige buckets will act more favourably to larger lower value buckets.

From: Prestige Balance in Testing 218

@Saint-X

Ratio from Blocks (using 10 sedi and 10 meta give a higher bonus as 19 sedi and 1 meta)

Histogram of Prestige Buckets: Each prestige value of a block/prop falls into a bucket value of prestige (i.e. 10 prestige items 12 prestige items and so on). The game will now look at the histogram of spread of blocks/props across the beacon area. If the beacon is considered to have a good spread of prestige items in each bucket, the final score will not be changed. If the spread is very uneven (so for example, then thousand 50-prestige items but barely anything else), the game will begin to penalise the total prestige on a curve of how uneven the spread is.

Also from: Prestige Balance in Testing 218

"discretePrestigeValues": [2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 100, 120, 140, 160, 200, 240, 280, 320, 360],

From: “C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Boundless\assets\archetypes\beaconsettings.json”

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[Saint-X]

???
using different block typ (sedi & meta) in a equal amount give you the best bonus
and you are write here over a other bonus. The histogram is for the bonus from low and high prestige blocks and like the text say a equal amount from all is the best like i say

@xyberviri

Prestige Weighting: This works in tandem with the above Prestige buckets. Since realistically a build will tend to use a lot of lower value blocks (woods & stone etc.) rather than a castle of Diamond, we have made sure the ideal “spread” of prestige buckets will act more favourably to larger lower value buckets.

This works in tandem with the above Prestige buckets

you put the sentence out of context using 80% low prestige and 20% high prestige is not better than 80% high and 20% low
a even balnce is the best

@rossstephens

The game will now look at the histogram of spread of blocks/props across the beacon area. If the beacon is considered to have a good spread of prestige items in each bucket, the final score will not be changed. If the spread is very uneven (so for example, then thousand 50-prestige items but barely anything else), the game will begin to penalise the total prestige on a curve of how uneven the spread is.

[xyberviri]

People need to just stop caring about the number…

[FayaAOP]

If People are interested, i could go to my base and put down a deco sedi or igni. They are more or less the same amount built with currently.