Not necessarily but believe what you want 
. @combatman12 And it is fairly obvious that you thought this but I was saying donāt beat up on this one person who has no evidence when the large religions have no proof either other than their belief. Yes evidence should be provided to convince others other than a gut feeling but everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just as you are. That is all Iām saying on that subject.
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āThat which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.ā
-Christopher Hitchens
I have nothing more to say on the matter.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
People should stop being weak and call people out on their ridiculous beliefs, you can believe whatever you want but that doesnāt give you the right to not be criticised for it. At the end of the day you can have the belief, but it doesnāt mean you should because if you have a ridiculous belief you will go on to vote someone with just as ridiculous beliefs as you into power. That will affect me and other like minded people who put real thought into such things.
I know that many large religions also have no proof, that doesnāt dismiss anything I have said thus far and in fact just goes to show how ridiculous their claims are.
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āThat which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.ā -Christopher Hitchens
I have nothing more to say on the matter.
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Well said.
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Exactly donāt just say to one person that their belief is stupid, unjustified and without proof. Tell it to the world .
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Iāve spent the greater portions of my life investigating these question. After studying the last several thousand years of history, investigating what we know and can see today, and spent some time in a few of my own ātrialsā, I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that I believe there is indeed an after life. However this wasnāt the intention.
My personal experience about generations today is to explain it as best I can in terms that most relate to the mythology and beliefs adopted by video games and pop-culture, believe it or not.
There wouldnāt be a need for Heaven, Hell, and Earth separation if we werenāt at war. Hereās how it startedā¦
There was once the ascended. Whether this is Heaven or a separate location is unknown to me at this time, so I simply call this place as such. Who we know as God by now had a host of angels, legions upon legions. Then the most highly decorated of angels, one of the commanders of all the angels in the realms began to feel spite, allowed himself to fall victim to the sensation of jealousy. Not necessarily an evil sensation by trait, but one he had allowed to get out of hand and turn him against his duties. He believed that because he was so highly held that next to God, he should be worshiped like -a- god. For his transgressions, he was cast out of the ascended and in his hate and rage, cultivated a following of his own. He and a Legion of angels he had corrupt to follow him brought chaos and woe until they were cast into Hell. A place that God then withdrew his presence from, letting it turn cold, dark, and horridly full of not but despair. Without the Light, Hell became the single most horrible and evil place known.
When man was created, evil took on the form of a serpent and then attempted to trick them as well. Though it succeeded, God foresaw this and so created a plan that would save mankind from falling into the depths of the Darkness of Hell itself as well. However, their transgressions still held weight on their being. Because of this, they would have to work hard and toil on Earth [Side note: Whether Eden was a separate realm and Earth is this realm/plane of existence rather then the planet is a theory I contemplate] to rebuild their Utopian lifestyle themselves rather than rely on God providing everything for them.
The rest is history. Or rather whether you choose to believe itās real history is up to you.
One of the main problems I see when people talk about Christianity is that too few people ever reference Revelations. This book is the cornerstone of SO MUCH Knowledge, yet so many people are focused on the smaller version of the story. Personally, when you go deeper into it such as looking at what is explained to us beyond what happened in/on Earth, itās far more interesting and Grand. Very similar to many mythological and religious setups that actual video games use to get some people hooked in the lore and story.
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You asserted it without proving it.
Uhm. Me? Didnāt really specify who youāre talking to.
Yea I think he meant you^^ He means that you should add some citations to support your claims.
Oh, I didnāt mean to like. Announce fact. I was more so telling what I believe in story form. I did include a line somewhere in thereā¦
But if you came to a conclusion you surely have some lines that lead to said conclusion. Maybe tell us more about those?
This was something I came to accept over Several years after reading several books and several articles. If I were to go back and try to find all the citationsā¦ It might take as long as it took the first time.
If you want to know what it feels like to be dead, try to imagine how it felt before you were born
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Hm, difficult case. It would just make believing you easier. But I understand what you mean.
Maybe learn from that and next time you do something like that, take note from the start?^^ Could also be that you didnāt plan to go so deep into the matter, so thereās that.
Still, would have loved to read some of what you convinced you. (Preferably without looking through hundreds of books :P)
@ben That was very not helpful xDD Maybe stick to leaking stuff? 
While that is also the way i see it, there can be raised a good argument against it. Some people suffer from amnesia where they cant remember anything from before a point, does that mean they didnt exist before that point? obviously not. So the lack of memory might not mean it didnt happen, but it sure as hell makes it hard to prove which is why i dont believe in it.
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Are you sure? 
Yeah. as sure as we assume memory is ofc. which we cant know, but thats something else.
I am reminded of The hitchhikerās guide to the galaxy where there is this guy who insists that he can really not know if anything exists if he is not looking directly at it, as the brain could possibly just make stuff up to explain why you are in the standing situation. Meaning that if you cannot see/feel/hear it now it is probably a lie 
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Try to watch āGolden Timeā Love that anime, its based entirely around the role memory plays on certainty and identity. but again, offtopic to afterlife.
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Thatās one of the two anime that made me shed manly tears.