Ok two things first up @DragonTamer … its great you were able to work with DJ to discuss and make arrangements that suited you both however its unfair that you say that others haven’t been willing especially when i have never gotten a DM for you discussing this. Secondly, you are talking about a guild ran hunt so, if its specifically for your growing guild what does it matter if a community driven hunt is ran at the same time.
I WILL NOT be using the forum to post hunts, as this place is toxic not to mention all of the hard work @Simoyd went into to fix the bot recently for the hunt pings to work globally again in discord. All of the hunts ran through GTG are community based/focused. We alternate planets so we are never doing the same one, which helps keep things somewhat fresh. Because I personally am player/community driven i don’t get bored running hunts daily as we have built a great community and come together in discord for general chats/friendly banter.
If a hunt is already scheduled and you have got guild members wanting to hunt, why can’t you join in on an already scheduled hunt but meet in say you’re own discord or whatever to chat etc … as then it will still be guild focused. I don’t see the reason to penalize those that are available to hunt daily at the same time. These hunts aren’t instant … they take time and sometimes a lot of patience when trying to grow and get them out to more players. Being consistent is key and with a same bat time, same bat channel approach, people that don’t use discord will soon get an idea of the time etc that hunts are ran.
I seriously don’t know why the word competition is even in this thread. I don’t see it as a competition and never will. I’ve built up a time based on the wants of the playing community. Players can choose whether they come or not. However when you refuse to participate in hunts at a certain time because of a leader or guild but can participate if you’re guild was to host it … i don’t believe the problems lies with those running established hunts already.
I am not discussing myself as I clearly stated in my post. I used myself as a mere example of the work involved in getting a community hunt organized and running consistently. I don’t run a guild hunt our guild hosts a community hunt.
I am discussing others that have come to me and shared conversations they have had with other players trying to negotiate times and getting confused between guild and community hunts and what overlap was acceptable.
I never specified anyone nor implied fault of anyone specifically to try to steer the conversation away from shaming.
It is not unfair to say others. Others was not to imply the number specifically but just to give a term to use without calling out individuals. Because I don’t like to shame and it is against the rules of the forums to shame.
I wanted to create a solution and keep away from all of this.
I never talked specifically of anyone’s hunt or who was or wasn’t at fault, because I don’t see it as a fault thing rather just a misunderstanding and working together as a community to find a solution that is agreeable to everyone and keep this debate from resurfacing.
Actually no I am not and I was very clear in my original post that they were two seperate topics. I am specifically talking about COMMUNITY hunts. I don’t really think a guild cares if a Community Hunt runs when they run their hunt, it is a guild hunt and in my mind guild hunts are just that and cannot get upset if someone does a community hunting event when they do their guild hunt.
It is about sharing times so people who want to run their own public community hunts they can. This has zero to do with guild hunts and everything to do with community hunts as been stated already.
I am beginning to get the feeling that this has gone from a productive conversation about community solutions around community hunts and sharing of the time slots fairly to a witch hunt and trying to make assumptions of who is the others. The conversations were shared with me in confidence 1 and 2 I am not trying to engage in shaming because that is against the community rules so therefor I will not expose that information to anyone. None of it was said to me and therefor doesn’t effect me. I just wanted to try to help the community work together a bit more and give an opportunity to others.
I will only say this one last time, I am not trying to cause waves. Rather help come up with solutions for something that I have got the feeling from other players that is turning them off and making them feel put down for trying to be a contributing member of the community. If this is wrong then I am happy being wrong.
Personally I get the reason for time slotted hunts and do use that as a way to plan my boundless gameplay out. I am not a hunt leader and I don’t think I would want to be a hunt leader because hunting is really not my thing as it is right now. This could change with melee who knows. My guild does provide a hunt lodge and my suggestion is to maybe get with these hunt leaders learn hunting and be sure this is something you want to do. If you are serious about it I am sure a hunt leader would give up a spot. Something I would like to see is maybe some one do some shorter hunts. Maybe an hour long hunt instead of two. Just a suggestion not a sleight or anything like that.
@DragonTamer I think it’s good to voice new ideas, but unfortunately I think this is something that doesn’t need addressing.
Based on where I’m located in my Timezone their are no hunts when I play so I just don’t hunt it’s simple. If I wanna hunt I’ll get up as some stupid time to attend what ever hunt is on regardless of the guild/ as all hunts are open to anyone joining - their not exclusive to guild or community based players.
No ones monopolising on times from what I’ve seen over the past 12 months/ their just consistent with the same times as their hunt attendees relay on this as they love the hunter/huntress leader for their own reasons.
I have seen many guilds work tirelessly for months on ends to build up numbers with or without backing from the community but they put in the effort to make it work regardless of issues your outlining for either yourself of other players that wish to not address or discuss themselves.
At the end of the day it comes down to friends playing with friends- no more no less- their is no need to try and control or adjust the way things fall naturally- if you or other up and coming hunters wanna run a hunt at a time- approach the guild or leader that runs a hunt at the time - find out what planet their running and chose another world? or just ping your own and let the people decide?
All I wanna add is their is a amazing community of players out their and each and everyone plays for their own reasons of enjoyment, friendship or place to escape the real world- just please be supportive and appreciative of the people that do play and have worked hard to build up hunts that people love.
Maybe the conversation can be restarted as a discussion about potential solutions. As it is, it’s been more about the positive and negative qualities of your specific proposed solution.
I think a calendar and a discussion about the ups and downs and methods of sharing time slots is valuable, even if I disagree with this implementation.
Why not see what he is working on and provide feedback from there? Dragon is a software engineer…so why not keep an open mind on this topic.
It’s an idea, it’s a way to display hunts way ahead of time, also it’s a way to help recruit players to guilds that are active within those timeslots ( if hunting is the primary role). How is that bad?
Let’s see what they have, try it out, discuss your thoughts on it and such. Your time is not being wasted, dragons is alone with other contributors.
I fail to see why this calendar is such a big deal…common place for casual players to see what is being run, who is running it, and plan to attend.
I don’t hunt as many times, I am scrambling for the materials needed to do hunts. By the time I find each shop that sells weapons food, totems, augments, potions. Well hunt is way underway. Mainly because I get notified 30 minutes or less before a hunt begins.
To be honest, it doesn’t matter who they are! If that person can’t DM the person directly and speak to them about it … it can’t really be that much of an issue. Any hunt that is pinged using the discord bot i believe is a community hunt - meaning any player can attend. It has nothing to do with the guild tag you are wearing.
I don’t lead daily hunts to be popular, to be cocky, to be selfish, to think i’m bigger than anyone else or for the praise, recognition or thanks (not that a lot comes for it). I’m giving up my time for the community and the need for there to be T6 Hunts as the creature drops are necessary for MANY of the in game items. I do this daily as I have made the time available to do so and i have listened to the playing community and what it was that they wanted … besides it being something that i enjoy doing as I’m not a builder & i don’t have a shop.
GTG & EZPZ were running hunts at the same time with players going to whichever they preferred. What the issue is … is the fact you have players of the opposite guild attending the hunts before promoting and saying why they should attend theirs more so than the other hunt being ran. This has
happened on numerous occasions as well as on our marathon hunt. If you are available to hunt during the time someone else leads a hunt - why can’t you just attend that one instead of wanting them to stop doing something they are prepared to give up their time to do?
You’re looking at it as a calendar. I’m currently one of the hunt leaders in game. This post is about being called selfish (by 1 or 2 people apparently) and suggests that we should hunt less in order to let others hunt during a time slot we currently hunt EVERY DAY!!
Simoyd just got the bot back up and going. I admit whilst it was down there was a lot of confusion around who was running hunts when especially for smaller groups/guilds - but that was in no fault of his own. Maybe that’s something for the guilds hierarchy to make sure members can be aware of in whatever form they participate in. (whether it be via a google doc, this forum, teamspeak etc) Most players use discord though so its just the easiest option in my opinion to get you’re hunt details out there.
Reducing the time could be costly as 2 hours gets you a decent amount of drops and between 200/300 oort. You don’t need to worry about changing type of bows etc as you are on that one planet for the duration. Making hunts smaller in time means, time slots would be wasted as you would then have to give people time to go empty their inventory, get the necessary bows needed etc.
I think its pretty important for every one to take a minute a reread the End User Licenses Agreement we all were required to accept in order to play Boundless.
If this is actually happening in game, I’m fairly certain if you ask that player to stop, leave and they don’t that would fall under harassment, I would highly encourage everyone at the event that went to that event to click on the ? icon next to the players name and then click “Report” and report that player so that people with authority can sort the issue as quickly as possible.
I think this might have come off wrong but I totally get where dragon is coming from. There seems to be some misconception that certain groups own certain times over running events. I have had several members of my guild try to tell me that i can’t do something at a specific time because its owned by another guild.
I was told i cant run a 9pm hunt on a T3 planet with platforms because sasquanch runs a 8:30 hunt on T5 and T6’s… running… because those are yall know similar lol ( to clarify a guild mate was the one that suggested im not allowed to be hunting at 9 because of the sasquanch hunt )
I would be shocked if any self respecting guild leader actually keeps these sort of players in their guild if they actually knew about this sort of behavior.
I think this community has the tendency to jump to conclusions.
Every one seems to get so offended so easily simply for the purpose of getting offended.
Like people here arent happy unless they are upset.
While I cannot speak for others, I will assure you I don’t speak on behalf of this ‘witch hunt’, I only am pointing out the problems I find with this new solution you proposed.
No system is perfect. The current way the hunts are ran isn’t, and more than likely your solution won’t be as well. However, we only decide to keep the old system or adapt to a new one based on which is better, considering all the flaws. Knowing this, I only point out the flaws if I find your solution so that it can be known, and improved/solved to make it better if possible, making it easier for the community to decide on which to use.
Personally, I am neutral to this solution. While I do agree a calendar to show what events happen when in one place will be useful, using it to change the current method may fix the problem you are trying to adress, but at the cost of making others. It is up to the community to decide on that.
This being said, I will point out while your system may make it easier for newer hunt leaders to try and get a hold of a decent time slot to try leading hunts, it may cause unreliability which the other hunt leaders in this thread seem to be getting at.
As you can see, the current system can be very reliable once you participate a few times. I can pretty much expect reliably for the Brown Town hunts to happen at the same time, on low tier planets, doing classic running hunts. I can expect GTG hunts to do high tier hunts at their usual time slot doing running hunts. I can expect Grandeur hunts to do theirs on high tier planets using platforms. Same goes for C..R.E., I can expect it to happen at their time slot using platforms… tho the planet tier may vary, but that’s just @DJDancecraft being DJDancecraft.
With this, when people ask for hunts, I can tell them when they can reliably expect to join hunts. If a newbie is asking about hunts after finding they exist, I can reliably direct them to Brown Town hunts knowing it probably will happen at that time on a planet tier suitable for that newbie. They can then keep joining hunts as they know it’ll happen reliably as well, instead of getting overwhelmed by trying to figure out when the next Brown Town hunt will happen with the game itself already being very unfamiliar and unhelpful. Same goes for the other hunts as well, I can direct people to those hunts based on what they’re looking for. They can try them out, and if they find they like that specific hunt, they can reliably expect the same hunt to be led by the same group of people at the same time.
Another thing to note. As you mentioned, not everyone uses discord. That also applies to others as well. Not everyone uses the forums. I’ve even seen people that use neither. Meaning there will be people that doesn’t use your calendar as well, whatever their reasons may be. As with the discord bot, or with announcing on the forums, the fact that it’s an external thing outside the game itself doesn’t change. As long as whatever we use to announce hunts isn’t in the game itself, many people will miss it, causing confusion, even more so if the hunt schedule changes daily as your suggestion says.
As @kemyobra pointed out, people join hunts with their own reasons, that being the need for materials/oorts, because that specific hunt happens at a time they are available to join, or just because they like the community they hunt with.
If people are forced to look up hunt schedules that change monthly so that they can join the hunt they want, it may cause inconveniences, even more so if it interferes with their work/sleep hours.
Another related note to this problem is it’s planned monthly in advance. Recently we had a hunt on a T7 exo, which myself participated in. While it was successful, we probably can agree the ‘announcing’ of that said hunt had played a decent part into bringing this problem you are trying to fix into attention of the community.
Such hunts that can’t be planned more than a couple days in advance now causes problems, not just with the current system, but with your solution as well. While negotiating with whoever ‘owns’ that time slot will fix this issue in both cases, your suggestion was intended to try and fix such problems so that such negotiations were not needed, or kept at minimal. With your solution, we’re back to the same problem for such hunts as the people trying to organize these unplannable hunts need to go and negotiate with whoever owns that time slot in the monthly hunt calendar.
Well its a shame that a guild mate has given you that information. No-one owns anything its more a respect from other hunt leaders tbh. Sasquatch run a T4 Hunt on Delta and the odd T6 on McKrib usually. It used to be every day but that have cut back a lot. You have both @PrincessMaude and @Lesioui in this thread saying that they don’t mind hunts being ran at the same time (as when they hunt they tend spare of the moment). To be fair, i would go on a running hunt over a platform hunt as you get more chance of picking up roadrunners and i find them more enjoyable … but as its been stated numerous times, players will go on the hunt they want to - for the reasons they want too!
and now you know my issue! As nothing to this day has been done about it - there are a couple of us that are constantly putting up with it so there is no “jumping to conclusions” about it … but this isn’t what this post is about.
This forum is toxic LOL and there is a lot of complaining about small trivial things. I ask for nothing but to be allowed to get out there and do what i enjoy - and that’s giving players the chance to hunt and collect creature drops/oort etc … if you would like to discuss you’re ideas or think i could help in any way, feel free to message me in discord DeViLiShBeCkS#7162
@DragonTamer Would it be possible to tie in the calander/schedule to the Protector Venari bot so the bot alerts all hunt channels 2 hours or so before the hunt goes live?
New idea: what if the people who run daily hunts allow “guest leaders” one or two days a week? That way we can train new hunt leaders, people will get a chance to lead, and every-day hunts can keep their time slots. Basically the same as what happened with dragontamer and DJ.
Also, trying to poach people off a running hunt is very uncool. Hopefully whoever is doing that… stops. I’m pretty sure no hunt leader wants that.
Not a bad idea but not the same thing either. Being a guest lead and running your own hunt is 2 separate things. It’s a good compromise but not the same thing. That’s like saying well you can run my hunt but you cant have your own. It ends at the same place for these guys.
@xyberviri and I will be doing another post laying out our idea and getting community feedback.
( to clarify a guild mate was the one that suggested im not allowed to be hunting at 9 because of the sasquanch hunt )
.R.E., I can expect it to happen at their time slot using platforms… tho the planet tier may vary, but that’s just 