PS4 Release Date, not this year?

All three of you are edging towards the this-thread-should-be-locked-because-no-one’s-being-civil state of affairs.

My take is that they’ve slipped enough estimates to be wary of giving out any more.

Also, I’m not sure where the “firm” 2016 date came from. @james has repeatedly stated that the release date has not been announced:

And the only mention of 2016 I remember is this post, which is very loose in its estimate, as well: