Not locking skill trees would also drastically increase how long it should take to level stuff up. so that is the tradeoff, which it seems like the devs doesnt want.
Or you just stroll into a settlement, sell the stuff you don´t need(e.g. drops from killed creatures) and buy stuff you need but can´t build yourself?
Those games have indeed a quite excessive amount of sub-steps within their economy loop but I think that B< will go for a way more compact scheme in that regards:
It also depends^^
Like I said before you could draw a line for the hardcore people.
Maybe the time to level up something increases for every additional tree after the 3rd tree you chose.
Or maybe after a certain amount of total nodes you learned in every tree combined which would equal 3 trees on max.
There are easy ways to make it dynamic so casuals and hardcore players can enjoy the same system.
Iâm sorry, but I donât understand how people have gotten the impression that you are forced to do crafting?!
Everyone can pretty much do everything - someone without the hunter profession can still hunt, the same as someone without the crafting profession can still craft - they just wonât have the additional perks and benefits that the profession specialisations will offer.
Boundless, fundamentally at itâs core, is a game about interaction with other players. I honestly donât see what the problem is if you want to be a hunter or explorer or miner or gatherer or crafter. You just find other people that have different profession skills to you and trade with them for better goods than you already have.
You mean with the gear you dont have because you just yourself said you shouldnt be able to craft anything without being a crafter? with the weapons you dont have? you could sell materials but if you arent a miner or a gatherer then i guess you wont be much help at that
Seems people have gotten into a habit that really bothers me. Blanket statements. you dont KNOW if everybody can do everything.
Citation Needed. Seriously. Citation needed. cause i have no definitive statement from the devs that this is the case
i do believe teamwork should be encouraged definitely and for some things you should only be able to do it with a group (large are of beacons, titans, bossfights, dungeons) but what is being argued right now by Vastar is the whole âeverything should come exclusively from craftingâ
Please do not use blanket statements. every time you do a kitty dies.
So you think that as there is a builder profession, no one (other than a builder) will ever be able to break a block or place one in the world? Please, give me a breakâŚ
That is your argument? Really? that?
I do indeed think you need a break mate
But to avoid Ad-hominem attacks, i think its fine if you can argue for your opinion. i dont think neither @Vastar nor I are arguing for how it IS but rather what we would like to see it as. You were the only one who came in and said âThis is how it is!â.
âHand the devil your pinkie and he will take the whole armâ. This is what happens when i got summoned to discuss. i will discuss with pure focus on logic and facts, everything else is secondary. Not deliberately trying to offend anyone which i assume some will feel. Just not holding back either. So by all means @Stretchious i would love to hear about what YOU would like to see the system as. and argue for why you believe it should be so. But seriously very few things bothers me more than plain out statements like âthis is what the game isâ. I bought into it back when it was Oort and i expected a full on RPG. Doesnt mean i dismiss anything building related with the argument âI dont like it therefore that isnt at all what the devs wantâ
Really missed that^^
Sure you can say that. im the one that is gonna get scolded soon enough.
Noone should scold logic. Thatâs something only dictators do.
Just remarking that if this gets out of hand I will lock the thread untill people calm down (I am using time I could be using to play crypt of the necrodancer so donât anger me I am already slightly irritated)
Haha, I now remember why people missed you @zouls
In regards to blanket statements âŚ
⌠try not to start with them yourself
You should know by now, that what people write on forums can always be taken out of context, especially if youâre looking for it to be so.
I did also notice that you chose not to argue your case further, but just chose to make fun of the situation instead and direct it back to me. Thanks for that.
How, in any way could you be irritated? I donât even see anyone who needs calming down except for you^^
I am not playing crypt of the necrodancer thats why.
Do it then^^
Well I´d imagine that in B< you start as lvl 1 character like in any other game:
Then you´d proceed to kill/mine with the basic starter tools until you get your first skillpoint which you either invest into crafting to unlock better weapons/tools or into another tree so you have an advantage in killing/mining stuff to be able to supply players that have picked crafting as first profession.
But yeah, âanythingâ was maybe a phrased a bit harsh, âanything but the most basic tools/weaponsâ would be more adequate.
Those additional benefits could very well include the abbility to process better materials, meaning that you can craft with tier1 materials by default but are unable to process any tier2 materials.
Well as this didnât devolve to a everybody is trying to kill each other situation it seems i shall.