Sovereign and Creative Worlds now live!

tarranth · 2020-09-19T16:38:04.380Z

I will probably be setting up a different world next month, seeing as 2 of the biomes were not as pictured or expected.
Jungle gleam biome had a picture like the gleam fields on Kada I, but ended up more rock than gleam formations.
Ancient Temples biome. I was really excited about this one, as the picture looked like giant stone pyramids in a desert. All of mine are in deep water. And once you go below the surface, they’re nothing but deep treacherous open caves that you can easily fall to your death in.

Kal-El · 2020-09-19T16:39:17.278Z

Gerentt:

I thought the server itself costed money once it was online. I dont assume it would passively cost the devs money to have an option for more players.

Based on a conversation over a year ago the number of player instances a planet supports (simultaneous players) does affect the cost of the server . The more players, the more the planet costs. Could this have changed? Sure, but probably it did not based on what we are seeing.

Spendra · 2020-09-19T16:40:14.520Z

Many server based games do charge that amount and in most cases the guilds run a donation weekend and usually pool the money to get a years worth of server time. If you had 100actual people that put in 15$ each over the course of a year you’ve got funds to get 15 months of server time.

Not everyone likes that sort of guild system though and I’m not sure how boundless would handle it.

Buugi · 2020-09-19T16:40:56.237Z

Obviously everything is speculation…
I have no clue what the server cost To run… What kinda server there are availsble For this kinda game… I would imagine its Pretty limited

Tyrosine · 2020-09-19T16:50:05.573Z

Alright, I opened my game and was in the Sanctum. Been combing the menus and can’t find out how to run “local mode”. Any assistance would be nice. Also, I don’t care about being able to reach the rest of the worlds from my own creative planet. I just want myself and my kids to be able to build to our heart’s content without having to worry about them getting in other people’s ways or having weird/bad interactions with other online players. Thanks for informing me.

Kal-El · 2020-09-19T16:51:26.430Z

Maybe this will help

Testing 238: Prototype Creative Mode and Modding! Releases

This update is accessible via the “Testing” release of Boundless on Steam. Please restart Steam to make sure you get the latest version of Boundless. If the update happens whilst Steam is open it’s unlikely you’ll get the latest version. Please report all issues discovered to new posts in the #support and #modding category. The following release notes are not final and should not be considered complete or exhaustive. Overview: Added an experimental Creative mode supporting server side Lua …

majorvex · 2020-09-19T16:53:59.037Z

You access it via the debug menu

debug

server

AeneaGames · 2020-09-19T17:05:04.668Z

The price doubles for double the size of the planet and double the amount of players allowed.

So should adding 10 player capacity cost an extra $10 or perhaps less?

Maybe $5?

Then a 100 slot 6km would be $70, a 100 slot 4.5km would be $60…

If that is enough to cover the cost of more players than that would be better

Gerentt · 2020-09-19T17:07:39.219Z

Sorry I think I need to clarify what I meant. I know having more players will up the cost of the server. But what I meant is that having the OPTION of allowing people to buy larger servers wouldn’t passively cost the devs money. For example, why couldn’t they have their current server options and then an even larger one that has the normal player population size of about 80 concurrent players for say 80 dollars? Would having that extra option have costed them more money?

iRedactoid · 2020-09-19T17:08:45.086Z

Before we had any info, I was expecting to see 20 slot worlds as the minimum for €/$15.99. That was with considering the costs on servers for different types of games.

So, based on that, I personally think an extra €5 or €6 would be a fair price to bring it from 10 to 20 slots.

Coolpants · 2020-09-19T17:10:39.437Z

I’d pay extra for the 80 slot standard that perms have

Tyrosine · 2020-09-19T17:28:46.397Z

Thank you very much!

Marrash · 2020-09-19T18:41:36.496Z

I know that this is a negative sentiment on what otherwise feels like a great step forward, but this demonstrates exactly why people have been pushing for more communication. It certainly feels like there might have been alternative options if they had suggested some speculative prices, sizes and player-caps and gotten feedback on that.

Hopefully the system they’ve built is flexible enough that it it can be revisited later down the line to maybe have planet sizes abstracted from player caps to let people pick them separately. Although fuel prices for them could be confusing (more than it already is).

Sarius · 2020-09-19T20:22:50.792Z

It’s a small gripe but I wish we could choose what kind of atmosphere on sovereign planets. I understand the intent that they follow the same rules as live planets for balance reasons, I’m just not sure how atmosphere affects that much at all. I’d likely get a t5-6 planet but really don’t care for the how the atmospheres make everything look.

Anyway, appreciate all the hard work that went into the update (and in processing all the new worlds, whee!)

Kirinvar · 2020-09-19T20:29:55.282Z

Marrash:

Although fuel prices for them could be confusing (more than it already is).

Wonderstruck could sell packages of world fuel, let’s say lesser world fuel gives you 30 units, Basic 60 units, etc. And each world uses a set amout of units per day. a 3k world uses 1 unit, 4,5k uses 2, 6k uses 4.

Just like portals. It’s a system players are already familiar with and it’s a lot more flexible and less confusing.

That way you can scale up player caps later. A 6k world with 60 player cap could go up to use 6 units a day instead of 4. (Rule of thumb would be 1 unit of world fuel per 10 player slots per day. Slots per $ would not change.)

TH0R · 2020-09-18T14:20:17.705Z

Oh no! There’s mountains of pure lustrous wood to the core now?!

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SClayton · 2020-09-18T14:23:36.298Z

nah, those have a stone core - I know them from exos. BUT the outer hull is 3 layer thick wood

TH0R · 2020-09-18T14:24:07.856Z

just dug down 9 layers and its all still wood!

SClayton · 2020-09-18T14:24:58.991Z

WHAT? :OOOOO So it differs from Exos. We chose that biome as well on atleast one of the two planets. Can’t wait to test ours

FlippityFloop · 2020-09-18T14:26:31.823Z

TH0R:

mountains of pure lustrous wood

I selected that biome hoping it was solid!! Did you dig into it to verify?