Testing 246: Creative Worlds!

[almund]

Looking good.

How portals and portal fuel is plan to work is cool but should there be limit how many of those are available or creatives could became elevator hubs?

[Peyago]

Very nice.

[SephirothWS]

So is this the response regarding color rarity the devs have for us? If so, this is sad. I want to gather/collect the colors I want, not go full creative just to use the colors I want. Especially when the colors I want are exclusive to gleam. @james Why are you guys so quiet regarding gleam colors and rarity of colors?

[Peyago]

No, their response to color rarity was to allow colors to come out randomly with sov, which has been met with highly differing opinions. This is the response to those who have been asking for creative mode for 2+ years. While it might not be your or my cup of tea, there are many looking forward to it.

[SephirothWS]

@Peyago

there response to color rarity was to allow colors to come out randomly with sov

They hadn’t responded to if there truly is a subset of colors that are specifically set aside to NOT generate. I still feel this is still the case regarding certain colors, … like Black Gleam. … I could be wrong, but there’s been no yay or nay on the subject whenever its been asked.

[Gerentt]

Yes there has been some dev response

Testing 245: Sovereign Worlds!

yes, exo worlds are not included (reasoning in my opinion; if all exo colors were available too, it makes exo worlds less special. same as if all 255 colors were available, it makes goo farming and gleambow and exo worlds (from non-resource point of view) pointless too)

Regardless I agree this is NOT anything to do with color rarity it’s to do with the people asking for creative.

[Nevioni]

Awesome, I cant wait to see what some players are going to make when all restrictions are lifted.

PS. a note to all future creative world owners, put a cover on your Death Stars exhaust port you know someones gonna do it

[SephirothWS]

@Gerentt

Yes there has been some dev response

Its vague in the sense that it doesn’t say yay or nay if ALL colors can generate or not.

[Gerentt]

To me it implies there are specific colors exclusive to exo world’s. I guess it’s not concrete in what he said but that’s how I interpreted it

[almund]

Things to check out:

• Does creative inventory include forged chisels and liquid tools (IMO it should)

[Peyago]

They are not blocking any particular colors from spawning. There is no bank of colors not allowed to spawn. The responses are just buried in the rush of back and forth on the forums or misdirection by individuals wishful thinking. Now that isn’t to say some colors are highly unlikely if everyone focuses on low tier planets or the same couple of types.

[Clexarews]

Unlimited plots @majorvex!

[Clexarews]

I’m assuming it’s just the F9 Give Inventory UI. So no preforged things. But infinite forging ingredients.

[almund]

That is what I am afraid of. Creative shouldn’t need any waiting times.
But maybe there is own tools like when going to generated planet from world builder.

[Odeon]

Post Your Screenshots!

While you boys and girls get all excited about the upcoming developments. I wonder how the SouveriegnWorlds update is coming along Or maybe DEV-HQ might want to merge 2 updates into one grand package for us

I already suspected yesterday that something like this was coming
But hey … I am more than willing to do some testing for this.
Thank you DEV-s, great work

[Venom]

I like this and I’m sure it will make a lot of people happy. Initially I probably won’t do much on creative worlds besides testing colors but maybe later on I might make something really big since there are no plot restrictions here

[Clexarews]

Now for the big question…are these and sovereigns being released together in 247 or as 247 and 248?

[james]

@SephirothWS

They hadn’t responded to if there truly is a subset of colors that are specifically set aside to NOT generate. I still feel this is still the case regarding certain colors, … like Black Gleam. … I could be wrong, but there’s been no yay or nay on the subject whenever its been asked.

When you last asked this, here:

@SephirothWS

I would still like to know if its true that every single one of the 255 colors available for every single block CAN even show up. @james … As far as I know there’s preset palletes configured, but not sure if every single color can show up. Been inquiring about this, but the devs seem rather tight-lipped on the topic.

I did respond in the thread:

@james

There is no artificial limit on the colours that can be selected during the world generation.

Each world config uses a customised recipe for generating colours. This recipe contains many RNG inputs as the colours are evolved and selected. Some blocks have a high degree of variability, for example gleam, which is allowed to select any initial hue. Other block colours are evolved with normal or linear RNG ranges from parent block colours. Some relationships vary hue, luminance, and saturation independently. Some of the configs limit the hue range to try and make more thematically consistent worlds: umbris red-orange, rift blue-pink, blink green-yellow. Likewise Lush worlds attempt to create earthlike palettes where vegation is pulled to green, wood brown, rock grey, and liquids blue. This means that these worlds will have more consistent colour selections.

When I first setup the worldcolour configurations I generated over 500 worlds and confirmed that the recipes (across all the configurations) spat out over 200 colours each. Clearly, as described above because of the theming, some colours are selected more often. But I was happy, when looking at all the recipes together, that the system was generating lots of variation.

1. Explicitly stating there was no artificial limit.
2. Briefly explaining the process and why the selection varies.
3. Describing my testing to confirm variation.

Hope that clarifies the issue.

[Kal-El]

If a player has multiple creative worlds then won’t the portal limitation will stop them from being able to move between them without having a character that can survive and travel safely through the public universe?

I understand not wanting to create a free portal network, but is there a way to limit players to a single link between the public and Creative Sovereign planets, but allow them to travel between their own creative planets using portals? And warps are not the answer unless they are free, since there is no way to make coin on the creative planets (and I agree there should not be). If a player has to warp then they have to constantly earn money in the public universe. If they only want to play in creative then is this necessary?

[Kal-El]

@Clexarews

portal limitation?

@james

Currently, you will not be able to open Portals between Creative Worlds and Survival Worlds as Portal Token items cannot transfer in either direction! We plan to allow you to open Portals only from a Creative World to the Survival World which orbits in the universe. This means that you can connect your Creative World to the public universe for free.

This is the limit. So if my randomly placed creative planets are orbiting different planets then I have to travel through the public universe to move between the planets.

Edit: Sorry was typing when you were removing.