Fair enough. The line between “rare non-fix updates” and “maintenance mode” is very fuzzy.
I don’t want to get far into this again, but most of the things people want to know have been answered by James directly, it just happened some time ago and I question that if hearing the same answer again will change much.
Titans are literally on the website and listed as “Coming Soon” and have been for years now. They were told to EA backers as something coming with 1.0 launch but I don’t have time to dig up the old threads.
EDIT: @majorvex You might as well lock this thread for two months as I’m confident we’ll not see 249 before then anyway and nothing good is going to come from this thread.
You are comparing a small team in the early stages of a game that is also still considered in EA, not a game that has been out for a number of years. Looking back through the news, the forums and a few other places it seems Boundless had a lot of patches and updates pretty often. While neither game is complete, one has been officially released. None of this to me accounts for the lack of transparency, but making comparisons to games like this is always questionable.
This seems like a fair evaluation. Looking over the wikipedia page on that game, it looks like they were going to run out of money from their personal savings and signed on with a publisher for funding to keep going. If early sales hadn’t been so strong, they would likely have had to slow or stop updates to make money through contract work or making an additional game.
It is my opinion that the best path forward for Boundless is likely a slow-burn development at a sustainable cost, focusing on features that will convert new sales and then retain them.
Once conversion & retention issues get ironed out, a big “free expansion” release of dungeons, clothes, and/or Titans (and a gorram roadmap) or something could get the game over the hump and back onto the radar.
Upon digging I agree it’s a pretty fair comparison in some ways. You explained it better. I wonder if Boundless is running out of funding? Personally, selling the game to another company to me is a safer bet … depending on what company that is. I think if a company were to see how much passion there was in the community and how we want it to grow they might have some interest.
Looking at it from an investors point-of-view though… would you invest in the game? I question if I would as I don’t know if there would actually be an ROI. Reaching out to some gaming companies might work…who knows. Why Lariam hasn’t just picked the game up and called it theirs is beyond me.
Having looked at their financial records, I don’t think their cost/revenue situation has changed much over the lifetime of the project. This doesn’t account for anything that happened in the last… year and a half, but we should get an update soon.
Based on what I know about investors, there are two types of groups that would invest in Boundless in it’s current state. One is a maintenance company that would take over, move it to cheap servers, and just make sure the service runs forever. The other is an organization who has money to spend and wants to take risks. They would have to believe that the game could be profitable within $Y and X years if Z actions were taken, though.
Maybe BabyCookie is secretly an angel investor getting ready to pick up the game, but I don’t personally think that this path is likely unless James has some good friends looking to spend cash.
I definitely wouldn’t put them in one of those two buckets. It looks like they have the role of publisher, which is a different kind of thing. They could choose to put more money into the game as well, but I would guess that they don’t have a large obligation to do so. Without knowing the contractual details of the publisher agreement, I don’t know. It’s possible that other indie devs have shared some details to get you an idea of what kind of a role they would play, but that wouldn’t be reliable.
Haha, I’m not sure it would be wise to start a new round of crowdfunding when they haven’t fulfilled the rewards for the first one
I’d still do it if they did, I believe in the game still, love it, and would be happy to show support that way. Heh, they could push me right out the door of the game and lock it behind me, “GO AWAY ALREADY YOU OBNOXIOUS TWIT!” and I’d still be all like “TAKE MY MONEY!!” and pushing it under the door.
Y do people call me overly positive but never mention u. I am analytical i have simply been saying I haven’t been seeing enough factual evidence and to many inferences to agree with I am the lawyer type I will argue either side as long as I see that it is correct. Like I may agree that their money is bad whilst I may then say u can’t assume based on how long it takes wether they are lazy or not. I actually talked with someone about that all opinionated and also 7 months for a big update o my so rare ever play ark or other games they have yearly for heaven sakes ark only just fixed some major complaints
I wouldn’t mind if they did. I have put some critiques and complaints out there, especially in more recent months, and I wouldn’t call my outlook about the future here very positive at the moment, I have a lot of worries and some of that I have elaborated on. There is even more I say to others sometimes, but some stuff I just see no point in bringing it up out on the board, as I see it as either redundant or I don’t see a purpose to bringing it up. I DO try to mostly keep positive out here on the board, and some of it is respect for the work and gratitude for the game. As I said before, in the end, regardless of my feelings and how much it means to me, still a game to me, their lives to them.