The Direction of this Game with 199 is Troubling

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Last night, before I went to bed, I had gathered 7 smart stacks of ancient wood trunks from Lutrion. My build on Grovidias Te, which is very, very big, uses a ton of refined ancient wood and decorative ancient wood from Lutrion (Dark Red). I turned all my trunks into timber and then filled up 5-6 Refineries worth of mass crafts for Refined Ancient Wood. I then went to bed super excited that, in the morning, I could get up and turn of the Refined Ancient Wood into Decorative Ancient Wood (which I need a metric ton of) and go start building with the remainder of the Refined Ancient Wood. Then I saw that Decorative Ancient Wood now requires Wax, which requires Raw Waxy Earthyams, which requires me to go farming for several hours and, even after I return from said farming, will still not yield enough wax to turn all the Refined Ancient Wood I’d like into Decorative Ancient Wood.

I play this game primarily for building. It takes me back to when I was a kid with Legos. I purposely chose to use a lot of Refined and Decorative wood because the gathering wasn’t too terrible and crafting was fairly simple and yet I liked the look of the blocks. This means I could get to building faster.

Stop… nerfing… fun…

Last night, in addition to queueing up a ton of Refined Ancient Wood, I also had farmed a ton of copper ore and queued up a ton of bars because I wanted to use gleam lanterns in my build (and a lot of them). I woke up to find that they now require Glowing Lamella. I’m not about to go farm the thousands of Glowing Lamella I’d need for my build so you’ve essentially ruined that aspect of what I wanted to do.

Stop… nerfing… fun…

Bomb mining, which was already nerfed into the ground, is now completely worthless. Don’t give me the bs line that some people are using to rationalize obliterating this play style into the ground: “But you can still bomb mine! You just have to provide the last hit now!”. Not even with max control, dex, and an AoE hammer, will you be able to break all the blocks you damage with a bomb and, further, it is much quicker to just use your hammer to start with now. Bomb mining was perfectly fine originally. Then you nerfed it into the ground but it was still okay. Now you’ve obliterated it. This further makes bombs for the sake of damage completely worthless in Boundless as evidence by the bottomed out price on damage bombs across the world now. They… are… worthless…

Stop… nerfing… fun…

I just about quit the game this morning. I AM going to tone my play hours way down as a result of this patch today. The vast majority of us do NOT want Boundless to be a tedious grind. We want to have fun. Please stop adding unnecessary middle men and pointless grind all over the place. Grind is not fun. Nor is playing an idle game - which is what Boundless currently is. You log in, you queue up a ton of crafts that will take many hours to complete and you log off for said many hours. You log in, move them to another machine and queue up many more hours of crafts and log back off. If I wanted to play an idle game, I’d be play Clash of Clans.

Stop… nerfing… fun…

Quick update:

My decorative and refined wood all finished. All in all it took me around a day and a half to get to that point. The result of a day and a half worth of crafting/waiting, was 45 minutes of actual building. Feelsbadman.

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I’m agree with you…

Perhaps the return of the old recipe will be a good idea for special craft, and the new recipe for advance materials?!

Not complexe to do!

I think that in the principe the game is orientating to go commerce with other people?!

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Idk it’s fairly easy to make wax though. 18 yams will get you 100 wax which is enough for 100 deco blocks. It’s still relatively simple imo.

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This is one of the reasons I don’t craft in Boundless anymore. All the cool stuff take a lot of effort for mining/gathering/crafting. I have a job and a baby. Why am I being punished for my limited availability? I still want to experience the game just like the others but can’t because I need to spend hours and hours to do all of those things in order to get some blocks…

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Very well said and I agree completely. I had stuff ready for the final steps just like you only to find out they put in more grind. I tried to log on and do some things but ended up having the game turn me off so badly that I went and watched tv. I barely ever watch tv. I can’t see myself playing with it very much if at all now. My husband stopped playing it too because of the mining nerf.

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Your point seems to be familiar. “Stop Nerfing Fun” :wink:

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At first I thought the addition of plant materials was a major increase in requirements but it seems that the spawn rate for plants has been drastically increased which offsets it quite a bit. I’m still not quite sure about the addition of ash and mud to bricks though, that seems a bit excessive.

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It is still more grind and this game is wAy grindy without it. And yea the bricks are worse. The bricks were one of the main things I was getting ready to do today. And the big reason that my plans to do a lot of playing and building crumbled to dust. Pretty much decided I was sick of gathering more stuff. Made me regret spending extra money on the game to help support it.

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You’re right! Some recipes are getting too complicated(too many mats). People who have a full time job don’t need/want another one. They want fun, to invest their little time into something they want to do, but it’s too grindy, pointless now.

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Indeed! I saw that and thought it was perfect because that’s exactly how I feel. I should have given credit in the OP. My bad!

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Nah i’m just playing with ya. I found it amusing you were using it. But that’s how I felt to. They are quite literally nerfing the fun.

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Re: Bomb mining. It was ridiculously OP. The fact that you have to say

“Not even with max control, dex, and an AoE hammer, will you be able to break all the blocks you damage with a bomb”

shows that to be the case.

I, for one, welcome our new hammer overlords.

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I may be a god, but I am no Thor. My hammer is only slightly weaker then his.

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I am at a loss for what to do in boundless now. My build that was already going to take months of farming and gathering will now take years. It doesnt seem worth the effort anymore.

A release like 199 is something you would see in an alpha version of a game, Not a supposedly launched game.

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You are absolutely right. It’s really bad business to do a patch like this on a launched game. It can be game killing.

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Looks like we need creative mod asap…
Cause what a lot of builders want is creative mod, not survival/gathering/building game.

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Not true at all. What we want is for them to not nerf what we already have and build upon it.

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A suggestion here.
We are official release right ?
or i am wrong ?
How come alpha beta we have more stable patch / less test / more freedom ?

Looks like our current patch is more like alpha beta than before lol.

Also when u change the skills especially a lot of skills in one patch don’t u give players free reset ?
( I just spend 20$ this morning to buy reset …)

A lot of thing u guys should add to the game already and we are still waiting.
And you guys keep changing something doesn’t really matter or already been perfect again and again.

Does it means i need to do the skill reset every big patch like this ?
if this is sand box game not just mmo.
The settlement name is really matter. Because it notes who create the city also author should has right to give their project the name they want !!

Right now anyone can pop up and spend a lot of money to buy a lot of plots and build a giant solid thing with high prestige value materials, and then he can take the credit of entire ur project.

Don’t u think this is the most important thing u guys need to develop right now ? ( in sand box part)
Also the dungeon / Titan you promise players should release as soon as possible ( in MMORPG part)

There are a lot of contents looks more important and we are still waiting.
On the other hand what do we get in current patch?

  • Game crash every 30min - 1 hour.
  • more grind with no specific reason.
  • mistake on patch note which cause shop owner lose their chance to prepare the gem items price change ?

This is the official release game so don’t expect people still patient to u guys like alpha beta.
If only 1-2 problem in one patch is fine.
But this patch is the worse and worse.

Also you guys really need to check how other game do the balance.
None of them Nerf tons of thing in one patch.

You need to give players some time to get use to the new change.

Sigh… :skull:

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Bombs were broken before patch, rendering aoe hammers entirely obsolete. I appreciate the fix, even though the devs seem to have killed a fly with a laser guided missile. Less would have been optimal.

My problem is the game getting super grindy. If the approach to unused ressources is to add them randomly to already grindy recipes, then i am losing faith in this games direction and its ability to balance a grind with actual gratification.

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I completely agree. The extra grind is not welcome. I’m already getting bored as I cannot seem to progress to collecting gems. This patch has nearly killed the game for me and I’m close to quitting.

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