Oh yes I do kind of recall now when we all started forging with quirks after the rework… before that spitter eyes actually used to be a valuable thing, haha. (Like I say, I have a habit of short memory syndrome sometime, haha)
I think that sums it up perfectly. It’s impossible to please everyone. I’m definitely on the “likes a challenge” side. I do get frustrated with it at times, but if it became a simple case of collect the appropriate materials and get a guaranteed result every time I would be bored in a hurry. But I’m also the sort of freak who enjoys goo farming, lol.
And yes now that I know what I’m looking for I found it 
Funnily enough the Ooortmas patch 2018!