To wipe or not to wipe

[tarranth]

@Xaldafax

Every person playing should take the time to look through EVERY beacon they own and go visit it. Then really decide what the purpose of that beacon was for. If that purpose isn’t really needed or the purpose is dead - like old roads where the town is gone - then reclaim the beacon so it is free.

I did this recently and I think that everyone should do this.

@Nightstar Nothing wrong with leaving vast tracts of unclaimed land for the new players to claim.

[Xaldafax]

@Nightstar

EHERMAGHERD XALDAFAX!!!

We can’t do this. If we do this, the game will look empty and apparently, that’s bad for player retention!

lol… well somehow I still ended up keeping many because of future ideas… but I was surprised how many I did let go all over the place because either the towns were gone or I had consolidated my ideas into more central locations.

But I know it is easier to point fingers or make excuses about how it affects the game than do the work and realistic beacon management. As for that player retention… yeah I’ve always wondered how a partial build in a dead town for a player that certainly doesn’t want it is “helping retention.”

In the ]i[ guild area there is are 2 areas with one having 2 plots and another a line of 4 plots. I know darn well those people aren’t going to use the beacons and are very likely very active players because they’ve been there for years now yet they still exist. That means people are just being lazy and not clearing out unused beacons. The first one has been there within a few weeks of release because we were the first people on Biitula and had the first beacons in this area and I secured the area but someone grabbed a small plot on the side and it is still there with no change. Obviously that isn’t a huge area people can build on if they released it but it still shows that a lot of people (that are active) do not go through beacon lists to clean them out…

[Nightstar]

@tarranth

I did this recently and I think that everyone should do this.

I did this recently as well allowed gleam club to expire, allowed everything to expire. Well, except two mall shops I keep forgetting. They’re probably not in anyone’s way

@Xaldafax

yeah I’ve always wondered how a partial build in a dead town for a player that certainly doesn’t want it is “helping retention.”

Yeah I can see how some people would miss the humor but the sheer amount of time and effort expended on “preserving” abandoned stuff and “protecting” a planet that self-regenerates in a couple of hours in this game has been pretty phenomenal.

And still honestly I think that almost every side of every major game mechanic has been presented as “harming retention” by someone or another.

It’s sometimes hard to remember that a community is so many individual voices, because the whole thing starts to seem a little schizo.

[Redlotus]

It is not the plots that are around a build for a buffer it is mostly the massive plots with nothing around them. I ran into an area that I could only assume was planned to be a city or mall or something as it was a ton of flat land of around 1k plots. It has been there since I started.

On an aside, I also found reclaimed a few spots I had, one being on Serp that I had plans for but have since moved to my Sovereign. It’s not much but I much prefer it go to someone that will do something with it.

[Nightstar]

Even trying to dig for an actual quote to drive home how long this has been a point is frustrating in the amounts of drama this brings up.

You very well may be frustrated over “land” that was plotted years before you started playing with no other purpose than to stop you from building on it.

@BabyCookie is not the only person here who dropped a few years of gleam club early in their gameplay. And there have been at least two actual “conservationist” type guilds who put on different rhetoric but definitely spent their game time finding and plotting interesting spots to “preserve” them.

As well as some particularly dedicated individuals.

I don’t know the spot you’re talking about but all of these things exist. It may or may not have been “the middle of nowhere” when those plots were placed. It’s possible you’re still taking grief someone was throwing at iLegend if you’re talking about Tana.

End of the day it’s an emotional issue and it’s going to come up in any environment that hits a couple of the same key points as boundless. You can either plot what you see, or you have to come up with some way to have a system that enforces something like, what, a community vote and endorsement/license to plot in a given area, with monitors to ensure that you conform to the required activity levels or relinquish control of the space to someone more worthy?

How simple is that?

[KissMyClass09]

Tbh I seriously don’t get why people are obsessed with doing a wipe it’s never gonna happen. It would cause a lot of people to leave the game. The massive amount of grind you gonna do in the game is a lot of hard work to do and just for people suggesting or wanting a wipe is insane like heck’s no I don’t want a wipe took so long to get where I am in the game to just be wipe.

[Redlotus]

I’m past the whole wipe conversation I don’t think a full wipe is something anyone truly wants or something that will ever happen.

My point of view is simple dead areas out in the middle of nowhere plotted with 1000s of plots having never changed for a year are just plain selfish. When all I want is areas for new players.

I’d be happy to see this closed.

[CaptAmerica1611]

I’m just surprised this thread is still going.

[kemyobra]

Lol it’s crazy right … time to close I guess
@majorvex can you please close this amazing feed - thanks for everyone’s votes