Bug or Feature? Stone colours (SOLVED)

[DarkSkies]

Is it normal that using 2 colours of rocks for bulk craft i obtain 50 block of one of the starting colours? The result is random or fixed?

[Soju-VB]

@DarkSkies

random

it is random

[anon427297]

Gleam changed colour after it was refined

randomness would still play a part in the “new system”. eg, a recipe that takes “2 gleam” (and tinted by gleam), and you have 2 gleam, one red and one blue. the only choice (other than dont allow crafting) is to make it a 50/50 here on which colour you get. I would hope, that if you instead had 51 red and 49 blue, that you would “definitely” get 25 red, 24 blue, and then a 50/50 of blue/red on just 1 single output, eg the system would be set up to try and never do randomness unless necessary. …

[Soju-VB]

and this from James

Lanterns changed colors

When you craft the system will take resources from the machine’s inventory first and then your personal inventory. If there is a distribution of input colours then the output will select an output colour by sampling the input distribution. For example, if there are 75 red gleam and 25 blue gleam, then there is a 75% chance that all the outputs will be red, and a 25% chance that all the outputs will be blue. It’s a single roll for all the outputs. I would imagine in this case the system pulled …

[Mittins]

mixing colors works for many materials too. Refined Gleam, goo paint, etc…

[DarkSkies]

@Soju-VB

When you craft the system will take resources from the machine’s inventory first and then your personal inventory. If there is a distribution of input colours then the output will select an output colour by sampling the input distribution. For example, if there are 75 red gleam and 25 blue gleam, then there is a 75% chance that all the outputs will be red, and a 25% chance that all the outputs will be blue.

So it’s not fixed but on a chance that depends on the input materials.

[Soju-VB]

Yes, but with RNG even if you put in 90 of one color and 10 of another there is still a chance you could end up with a batch that is colored like the 10.

Edit: and it you read through some of the other posts involving this, you will also notice that the color of the icon in the queue is not to be trusted, and that is intentional to keep people from “gaming” the system.

[DarkSkies]

I noticed that the icon is a lie, damn.

[Soju-VB]

Yes, to keep people from abusing it at the moment. James did mention this in one of his posts but I have no idea if it ever got any traction with the devs.

@james

We have discussed in the past changing this system to select the output colour for each output item. This would mean that instead of getting 100% red or 100% blue, you’re more likely to get 75% red and 25% blue.

[Mittins]

ya, unfortunatly you cannot trust what the icon color is in the queue, It can still change upon completion of timer.

[Trickyy90]

I like to take a gamble, for example bulk crafting the new Oortys I would use 8 different colours of gleambow gleam and see which colour the 5 Oortys ended up being!

Stole the idea off @Buugi I think it was during the last event?

[Cuetzpalomitl]

Yeah it’s fun when you know what is going to happen but sadly a lot of people have wasted their rare colors thinking the icon color is going to be the output