C++ Build Bugs & Issues

[Saint-X]

@james

We can likely better balance the LOD steps. Ultimate should really be ultimate!

ulrimate atm is not real a ultimate ^^

I hope I can later watch more far in the distance as at the moment. At the moment is the range of vision still relatively limited. and the lod on ultimate is to near, after a few blocks nearly the most details get lost.

@Heurazio

I think this is the LOD and in my optinion this is a good solution at the moment. Away from the technical reasons I don’t like the foliage of the trees at all so i’m happy the earlier i don’t need to see it

yes the (new) green foliage looks bad. the last version of the leaves looks much better. I want the the first version of the foliage back like @Heurazio it says, but as a seperated block instead as foliage. The new orange and yellow foliage looks real cool, but the green looks bad.

the old and first version like @Heurazio it means

this old version has 1 big advantage, the light was shining throw it, like in the real, so you can build pretty cool things, but it looks more like a colored glass but i think in the new foliage should the light shining throw.

the newest version on the c++

the green block inside looks not good and

its clipping in other blocks and the block size is nearly 2 because it needs on every side a half block more (i mean only the visible size, not the size of the block itself), please make the blocks smaller

the last version from the java/pre-alpha version (not the c++ XD)

you see no green(colored) box inside the foliage, or i did not see it because it had a higher density of the foliage.

@james is it possible to make the foliage like in the first version that the light shining throw it but with the the design from the java version and a bit smaller that it need only 1 block size ?

i want not set graphic lower because the foliage, or set the detail lower or disable the foliage like @Heurazio it means, i love to set all on max i love to see nice details and i love a vision with a far range.

[KKBell]

I’m ok with waiting, I have my wife’s computer to play on! I did however send the only log that I could find.

[Vastar]

Wow, now I want the old foliage back even more

@Saint_X

is it possible to make the foliage like in the first version that the light shining throw it but with the the design from the java version and a bit smaller that it need only 1 block size ?

This would indeed be awesome

[KuroKuma]

One reason the leave blocks are not transparent anymore is because of performance.
Maybe with the C++ update they could make them transparent again. But I’d rather see something else take up those resources than leave transparency^^

[Vastar]

TBH I think that leave-transparency is a pretty important topic. It´s a pretty awesome feature for building (hiding lightsources inside of foliage while building a treehouse was plain awesome) and it also was something that made B< unique (among other things).

[nevir]

@Saint_X

is it possible to make the foliage like in the first version that the light shining throw it but with the the design from the java version and a bit smaller that it need only 1 block size ?

Unfortunately, it’s unlikely that we’ll get transparent foliage back, for performance reasons:

Old textures

I don’t think you’ll find one, doing so would be a huge performance drain, those solid non-transparent parts of the leaf block keep performance sane.

[KuroKuma]

Well, I don’t think it’s an important topic^^
I mean sure it’s a topic which should (and was) discussed. But not an important one (other than the important performance implications).

[CloudKA]

While running Black Desert in the background, my mouse cursor does not staying anchored within the game screen. This is happening on full screen and windowed mode. If i scroll too far to one side or the other my mouse click will be “outside” the game. Not sure if this is a problem with Boundless or Black Desert.

Intel i7-4790k
Nvidia GTX 760 w/ three monitors

P.S. Not sure I can live without my afk fishing.

[Heurazio]

Had similar issues with CS:GO running in background. The easiest solution is to quit your second game but as you said … sometimes things need to run in background

PS: I have this problem with a lot of games (eg. Ashes of the Singularity(AotS) + Boundless, AotS + CS:GO, CS:GO + Kerbal Space Program) therefore I had no worries till now

[CloudKA]

@Heurazio

The easiest solution is to quit your second game

Can confirm the issue stops once BDO is closed.

[yota]

Thanks @KKBell , we got your log. We are looking into this now.

[james]

@Saint_X

@james is it possible to make the foliage like in the first version that the light shining throw it but with the the design from the java version and a bit smaller that it need only 1 block size ?

Everything we’ve release + shared publicly is still a work in progress. So this is good feedback for us to consider.

I have noted that some of the leaf blocks are incorrectly configured at the moment. Whilst the blocks themselves are solid (as in the JS version of the game) for performance reasons, they should still allow light to pass through. This means the ground under trees shouldn’t be in darkness. One of the leaf blocks has this transparency set to 0 (totally opaque). We’ll fix this in a future update. Once fixed this would allow you to hide light sources in leaf blocks again.

[Saint-X]

@nevir

Unfortunately, it’s unlikely that we’ll get transparent foliage back, for performance reasons:

this makes no performance problems

@james

Everything we’ve release + shared publicly is still a work in progress.

yes thats the ground why this game is early access, so every thing can changed during this time.

@james

So this is good feedback for us to consider.

That’s what I have hoped that you can do anything with the feedback

@james

I have noted that some of the leaf blocks are incorrectly configured at the moment. Whilst the blocks themselves are solid (as in the JS version of the game) for performance reasons, they should still allow light to pass through. This means the ground under trees shouldn’t be in darkness. One of the leaf blocks has this transparency set to 0 (totally opaque). We’ll fix this in a future update. Once fixed this would allow you to hide light sources in leaf blocks again.

i love the last sentence ^^ i will be happy if i can hide the light source behind the leaf again like in the first version.

@ james
is it also possible to get the white lanterns back ? i love the white light, it look much more better as the yellow light from the yellow lantern or from the torch.

[KuroKuma]

@Saint_X

this makes no performance problems

Of course it does. It was the reason they changed it in the first place.

@james

Whilst the blocks themselves are solid (as in the JS version of the game) for performance reasons

James even said it in the post you quoted.

[Saint-X]

@KuroKuma

Of course it does. It was the reason they changed it in the first place.

in the js version it makes problems yes, but i think later in v1.0 it should make no problems

[Thorbjorn42gbf]

It will though transperent blocks require a larger amount of block textures to load putting a large strain on the computer especially when playing with higher graphic settings.

[Saint-X]

@Thorbjorn42gbf

It will though transperent blocks require a larger amount of block textures to load putting a large strain on the computer especially when playing with higher graphic settings.

i think every house has a window with glass, so it should make not so much problems.

i think if you set grahpic to low, the shining effect throw the leaf should be not so strong, but if i play on ultimate i want a nice shining effect. thats the why a gamer buy a graphic card who was not cheap.

[Heurazio]

@Saint_X

in the js version it makes problems yes, but i think later in v1.0 it should make no problems

@Saint_X: You are wrong because of tworeasons:

1. You can’t optimize with culling or clipping because objects behind a translucent object need to be rendered too. Culling itself is start for multiple optimizations techniques.
2. You need to invert the Z-render direction for translucent items (which is a pain in the *** for the rendering pipeline)

Everything that is translucent is HARD to calculate. There are even more reasons not tu use them. One is the “density” and an other one the “brechung factor” (a factor how light is broken when it pass from one medium into the other [eg. air → glass]). Things can look really “odd” if you don’t do the math right.

[Thorbjorn42gbf]

@Saint_X

i think every house has a window with glass, so it should make not so much problems.

The difference is that we have trees with 200+ leaves in and if you are in a forest you can easily need to render huge like HUGE amounts of leaf textures that your computer need to keep track of. Glass doesn’t really force a lot of extra visible blocks while leaves does.

[KuroKuma]

@Thorbjorn42gbf

Glass doesn’t really force a lot of extra visible blocks while leaves does.

I’d say every glass block needs about the same amount of additional visible blocks as a transparent leaf block.
But glass doesn’t really have a texture so that’s a plus^^